The schmoes who keep adding Sam Parsons in the titles to threads keep the man in the news, instead of letting Sam's feet do the talking (whether those feet trip up or they are part of an elite performance (even when not winning). And then a schmo like NAUSUX come out of the woodwork to post his Sam Parsons comment, which, ugh, keeps the man (Sam Parsons) in the news, despite the negativity.
In that case, let me bring up the name "Dorando Pietri", disqualifed 1908 Olympic marathon runner. Now he is back in the news! Was Pietri an elite marathoner? He certainly wasn't a 3:57 miler.
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Lol. What was that, Mills' first race of the season, before getting in top shape and this guy barely beating him? Girma would get absolutely trounced now
Lol. What was that, Mills' first race of the season, before getting in top shape and this guy barely beating him? Girma would get absolutely trounced now
Man we live in a different era huh - I remember when it was a big deal if the worlds best milers ran sub 3.50 at Prefontaine (seriously go check out how many sub 3.50's were run there prior to 2015 - its way less than you would think). Now George Mills who, with all due respect, is still a relative no-name in the sport goes out and busts a sub 3.50 at Pfungstadt, a tiny town of say 20000 people in Hesse, in front of maybe 600 people?
Different times, but at the same time great times.
A great mark, but still slower than Centro’s best mile time. Not worried about Mills, he has plenty of company in that pace tier.
Yeah I think that's the point mate - Centro is the Olympic champion and when he ran his sub 3.50 it was a big deal (and it was very impressive given the circumstances). I wouldn't even think of putting Mills in the same class and yet here he is with a comparable lifetime bests over the 1500 and the mile and it's really his first season competing in upper tier/DL level meets.
Also it's not about being worried about him - I'm not worried if he runs 3.55 or 3.45 for the mile - it's not about how the global level is at a new plateau because even a decade ago it seemed like a sub 3.50 put you right in the top tier of global milers and not sure I see that in Mills just yet (hint: in 2013 only 3 guys broke 3.50 and nobody broke 3.49.0. Mills would have been the third ranked miler by time that season behind only Silas Kiplagat and Asbel Kiprop).
A great mark, but still slower than Centro’s best mile time. Not worried about Mills, he has plenty of company in that pace tier.
Yeah I think that's the point mate - Centro is the Olympic champion and when he ran his sub 3.50 it was a big deal (and it was very impressive given the circumstances). I wouldn't even think of putting Mills in the same class and yet here he is with a comparable lifetime bests over the 1500 and the mile and it's really his first season competing in upper tier/DL level meets.
Also it's not about being worried about him - I'm not worried if he runs 3.55 or 3.45 for the mile - it's not about how the global level is at a new plateau because even a decade ago it seemed like a sub 3.50 put you right in the top tier of global milers and not sure I see that in Mills just yet (hint: in 2013 only 3 guys broke 3.50 and nobody broke 3.49.0. Mills would have been the third ranked miler by time that season behind only Silas Kiplagat and Asbel Kiprop).
Well, he’s the fastest miler in the world so far this outdoor season, behind no one…
A 3:49.6 mile is like a 3:32.6 1500: good, obviously, but not remarkable for a runner of Mills’s caliber (and he is ranked #12 in the world according to the World Athletics rankings system, and #17 by time at 3:30.95). If the mile was run by the top guys with any regularity at all, then 3:49 would really seem ho-hum.
The way Mills has been running lately, he is firmly in tier 2 among 1500 runners, which I would describe as championship finalist contenders but unlikely medalists, just a notch below guys like Kerr, Nuguse, Nordas, Kipsang and Katir.
Edit - I felt compelled to bring up one more point of contention: I don’t agree that it was a “big deal” when Centro ran 3:49.26 two years ago. The race got a fair bit of attention here because a) Centro always garners a lot of discussion here and b) it was billed in advance as an American record attempt and live-streamed as an event dubbed “The Centro Mile”. The pervading reaction to his result was lukewarm; it definitely showed he was fit, particularly considering the poor pacing, but it wasn’t going to strike fear in his competition and he came up well short of his goal.
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