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10 months ago 09/04/2023 9:29am EDT

What a complete joke. I hope Clayton Young and Conor Mantz are disqualified, as they led everybody down the wrong path. Zenaselassie went the right way but then went back with the crowd. Absolutely ridiculous. And how can national championship race not have course Marshalls at an intersection like that who know the course! Just when you thought national usatf couldn't get any worse. Will they let them keep the title if the Strava says 20k+? Lol.

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10 months ago 09/04/2023 9:33am EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

The New Haven 20K doesn't deserve to ever host a championship again. What a joke! Sent the entire men's field the wrong way, didn't have splits along the course, and athletes had wrong bibs and weren't listed in the start lists. Complete joke!

10 months ago 09/04/2023 9:36am EDT

re: riley stops

riley stops wrote:
The New Haven 20K doesn't deserve to ever host a championship again. What a joke! Sent the entire men's field the wrong way, didn't have splits along the course, and athletes had wrong bibs and weren't listed in the start lists. Complete joke!

Since the entire men's field went the wrong way, is Emily Sisson going to win the men's race?

10 months ago 09/04/2023 9:47am EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

New haven is a sh!thole anyway. Why would they host it there?

10 months ago 09/04/2023 10:05am EDT

re: agreed

Clayton Young was 100% at fault.

The lead vehicle which I was on led the correct way. Futsum had made a hard move which dropped Clayton. Clayton who was 15 yards back screamed to the 4 guys in front of him “wrong way guys we go left”. The leaders turned around to come back. Andrew Colley who had just fallen of said “no, we were going the right way. Follow the lead vehicle”. So the leaders turned around again and came back the right way.
This brought the top 7 back together.

Futsum was cheated the most. Clayton benefitted the most.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 10:09am EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

Looking at the video, the lead runners followed the vehicle with the camera in front of them. Young pointed the right way to go, but they kept going. The leaders turned around and went back on the course after the people in the vehicle and those around them told them they went the wrong way. After they got back on the right course, the commentator then thought they were off course until he was corrected. Interesting drama.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 10:11am EDT

re: agreed

Apparently they did in fact go the right way? But it’s weird they awarded the win to Mantz when it clearly looked like Young and Mantz said so himself.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 10:12am EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

10 months ago 09/04/2023 10:14am EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

Lead Vehicle wrote:
Clayton Young was 100% at fault.
The lead vehicle which I was on led the correct way. Futsum had made a hard move which dropped Clayton. Clayton who was 15 yards back screamed to the 4 guys in front of him “wrong way guys we go left”. The leaders turned around to come back. Andrew Colley who had just fallen of said “no, we were going the right way. Follow the lead vehicle”. So the leaders turned around again and came back the right way.
This brought the top 7 back together.
Futsum was cheated the most. Clayton benefitted the most.

Clayton Young should be DQ’d or at the very least Futsum should beat his azz.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 11:17am EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

At 1:05:55 in the video, you can see barrels blocking the right lane of the correct course as well as a sign that we can't read because it's facing away from the camera.

Those two barrels were in the wrong place. They should have been blocking the main road (to the runners' left) so no cars could come onto the course. There would be no need to block that lane on the actual course with barrels. I could see how the barrel placement could be confusing to runners because the road they turn on to is not the main road. You can see a stop sign on it at 1:05:56.

Maybe the sign said, "Race" with an arrow, but that doesn't excuse the poor barrel placement.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 11:26am EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

10 months ago 09/04/2023 11:40am EDT

re: Bagofsharks

Bagofsharks wrote:
Video?

You have to be a USATF dot TV +PLUS subscriber.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 12:11pm EDT

re: Watch It

Watch It wrote:
Looking at the video, the lead runners followed the vehicle with the camera in front of them. Young pointed the right way to go, but they kept going. The leaders turned around and went back on the course after the people in the vehicle and those around them told them they went the wrong way. After they got back on the right course, the commentator then thought they were off course until he was corrected. Interesting drama.

If you’ve ever driven a car in Utah, you know that Clayton’s nonsensical actions are par for the course.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 4:47pm EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

Lead Vehicle wrote:
Clayton Young was 100% at fault.
The lead vehicle which I was on led the correct way. Futsum had made a hard move which dropped Clayton. Clayton who was 15 yards back screamed to the 4 guys in front of him “wrong way guys we go left”. The leaders turned around to come back. Andrew Colley who had just fallen of said “no, we were going the right way. Follow the lead vehicle”. So the leaders turned around again and came back the right way.
This brought the top 7 back together.
Futsum was cheated the most. Clayton benefitted the most.

Wow that's really bad. He should be disqualified. It altered the outcome of the race IMO.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 5:08pm EDT

re: Watch It

Watch It wrote:
Looking at the video, the lead runners followed the vehicle with the camera in front of them. Young pointed the right way to go, but they kept going. The leaders turned around and went back on the course after the people in the vehicle and those around them told them they went the wrong way. After they got back on the right course, the commentator then thought they were off course until he was corrected. Interesting drama.

Per Young, it was he who pointed the wrong way, causing the leaders who were going the right way to turn around and come back. Chelanga went from 1st to 5th.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 5:10pm EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

Lead Vehicle wrote:
Lead Vehicle wrote:
Clayton Young was 100% at fault.
The lead vehicle which I was on led the correct way. Futsum had made a hard move which dropped Clayton. Clayton who was 15 yards back screamed to the 4 guys in front of him “wrong way guys we go left”. The leaders turned around to come back. Andrew Colley who had just fallen of said “no, we were going the right way. Follow the lead vehicle”. So the leaders turned around again and came back the right way.
This brought the top 7 back together.
Futsum was cheated the most. Clayton benefitted the most.
Clayton Young should be DQ’d or at the very least Futsum should beat his azz.

Nope. Either its on the Race Directors if the way to go was unclear or on the runners for listening to Young when he was wrong

10 months ago 09/04/2023 6:18pm EDT

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
Watch It wrote:
Looking at the video, the lead runners followed the vehicle with the camera in front of them. Young pointed the right way to go, but they kept going. The leaders turned around and went back on the course after the people in the vehicle and those around them told them they went the wrong way. After they got back on the right course, the commentator then thought they were off course until he was corrected. Interesting drama.
Per Young, it was he who pointed the wrong way, causing the leaders who were going the right way to turn around and come back. Chelanga went from 1st to 5th.

Young should be disqualified

10 months ago 09/04/2023 6:22pm EDT

re: Lead Vehicle

Lead Vehicle wrote:
Clayton Young was 100% at fault.
The lead vehicle which I was on led the correct way. Futsum had made a hard move which dropped Clayton. Clayton who was 15 yards back screamed to the 4 guys in front of him “wrong way guys we go left”. The leaders turned around to come back. Andrew Colley who had just fallen of said “no, we were going the right way. Follow the lead vehicle”. So the leaders turned around again and came back the right way.
This brought the top 7 back together.
Futsum was cheated the most. Clayton benefitted the most.

The leaders are idiots for listening to him. That's the story here.

10 months ago 09/04/2023 6:29pm EDT

re: riley stops

riley stops wrote:
The New Haven 20K doesn't deserve to ever host a championship again. What a joke! Sent the entire men's field the wrong way, didn't have splits along the course, and athletes had wrong bibs and weren't listed in the start lists. Complete joke!

New Haven has held the 20k champs for....decades? It is probably the longest held 20k race in the nation. It's one of the ONLY annually held 20k races in the US.

Alan

10 months ago 09/04/2023 6:31pm EDT

re: ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics

Does wejo still live in CT?

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