Any Word on the Sha'Carri 'Athletes Only' Mtg to Create a Union

Actors have a Union. What’s the unemployment rate among them?

This is what the economically illiterate don’t understand.

There are unintended consequences to increasing prices beyond market rates.

I’ll bet baby girl doesn’t know that unions promoted minimum wage policies to price out black workers.

implying that non-union industries treated black workers well back then? That was a product of racism, not unions.

I bet you thought you were clever when you made this post.

It’s about revenue sharing from USATF… not about raising market prices. The money is already there. The athletes just want their slice, not the crumbs when Max is done.

You seem gross. "Baby girl"? Jesus.

Don't want to get into a whole discussion on the pros and cons of unions. Specifically, in sports, I think unions are needed. In all sports, the players association can bargain collectively. T&F athletes need an association (if you don't want to call it a union).

something needs to happen. the USATF is so woefully inept. i doubt there is much money to spread to the athletes, but it would be great if they were part of the decision making process.

I might come back to bite them though. Right now, the USATF seems to be an entity with the purpose of serving Nike, so this might be biting the hand that feeds them. Nike does quite a bit for a sport in sponsoring athletes, though those numbers seem to be dwindling.

im sure it's a complicated problem, but something needs to change.

They did it to keep out competition, 💩 head. Like I said, the economically illiterate, don’t get it.

If they’re so underpaid, why doesn’t someone like you arbitrage the difference, start a track and field company and pay them more?

And now Unions don't keep out black workers so how is that relevant in the slightest?

What, do, the, grammatically, illiterate, get, hmm?

Nike has done tremendous things for USA T&F. Can't argue with that. But it is never good to have only one major supplier, too much power. We need sponsorship diversification. But where were the other shoe companies? They didn't step up, look at how many athletes Nike sponsors via all the teams/clubs.

I'm sure it is a love/hate relationship with them. Just look at these boards, some refuse to wear anything Nike, while others love them.

Unions can be really bad for Olympic sports because pro sports unions have the right to restrict membership by age and bar USATF from allowing people under a certain age to compete. For example the NFL requires players to be 3 years out from high school. A union could bar Knighton from competing at the US pro level. Unionization will inevitably lead to gatekeeping that weakens American teams.

Disagree. A better sport comparison would be tennis and golf. For the tennis tour it is 14 and golf is 18. (Most think 14 is too young, but that neither here nor there). Using football is a bad comparison. I don't think a player's association would prevent someone like Mia B-P from competing, especially since she has the times to back it up. Also, if WA does not have an age standard, USATF won't either.

Not complicated. All you have to do is decipher which side of the aisle is scared of unions and fights to eliminate them. The same side that relies on lies, fear and exclusion. Trampling worker rights and pay scale, to promote the latest tax avoidance and new yacht on top.

weird, I thought the lockdown, vaccine mandate and cancel culture side was also pro-union

Athletes need a voice. Managers and coaches are focused on curating long term relationships with brands. The athletes are a replaceable commodity, and they are currently being sold short, glorified slaves.

The early entry restrictions are designed to protect players, and protect the relevance of college sports. If Erriyon Knighton or Hanna Moll had to stay in HS/NCAA for 3 yrs, they can take out an insurance policy against injury, like Arch Manning will do. Meanwhile the players toughing it out against their will in NCAA progress toward a degree.

Having bureaucracies like WA and USATF in charge is very inefficient to growing a sport. There needs to be entrepreneurs in between the athlete's and the bureaucrats, interested solely in growing finances. That would be organizations like pro golf tour, tennis tour, formula 1 racing, nascar etc.

Sounds like the low IQ leading the low IQ.

Correct... if Sha'Carri's leading the meeting it's going nowhere.

What problem is this union meant to solve and how, anyway?

Tell me you’ve never broken 15 without telling me.