Is the MCU hopeless?

We just saw Guardians 3, and all of us thought it was the best one.

Phase 4 was easily the worst so far. At least 2 complete duds (Black Widow & Eternals) along with a couple other average films. Phase 5 has been off to a rocky start. Ant Man introducing the newest big bad was a dud and GotG 3 was less of a continuation film and more of a send off. No doubt the formula is getting tired.

I dont think they are ever going to stop. Their spiderman is still young and they just reacquired the X-men. I think they might focus on the Disney + episodic content for a while after phase 4 though. Jonathan Majors getting himself cancelled really f.ucked up their plans.

Disney is a tired company, no imagination, led by no-talent hacks who are completely out of touch with moviegoers. "Elemental", "Indiana Jones" all flops.

The $5000 per night "Galactic Starcruiser" hotel in Orlando didn't even last a year.

Theme parks are dirty, fights between customers in the theme parks, employees aren't happy, and prices keep going up. Just a recipe for disaster.

Wouldn't be surprised if they declare bankruptcy in the next few years or are taken over by a company like Apple.

I know I'm alone on this, but eternals and Far From Home are the only two films that I liked. eternals was at least an entirely different direction and introduced a new villain that was galactic. I think all the shows have been terrible. And Disney is now going to ruin Date Devil, which Netflix had created an incredible universe with Jessica Jones, DD, and Luke Cage. There is no need to bring them into the MCU.

Shocking that the "let's have all movies be superhero movies" model wasn't sustainable.

I hate to admit it but you’re right. There are two big problems with the MCU:

1) All the major characters they’ve introduced or promoted since Endgame to replace the original Avengers are downgrades.

Ironheart is a downgrade from Iron Man

As Black Panther, Shuri is a downgrade from T’Challa

As Captain America, Sam Wilson is a downgrade from Steve Rogers

As Black Widow, Yelena Belova / Florence Pugh is a downgrade from Natasha Romanoff / Scarlett Johansson

As Hawkeye, Kate Bishop is a downgrade from Clint Barton

She-Hulk is a downgrade from Hulk

Who wants to watch a bunch of downgraded characters?

2) The multi verse has rendered everything inconsequential. As seen in the last Ant Man movie, any character can die and it doesn’t matter because they can just bring in another version of that character from another universe or a variant from a different timeline. If nothing really matters, then why should we care enough to watch?

I’m surprised that a poster who has openly denigrated blacks would be such a nerd…

It was Great to se Prince Namor Mckenzie The Savage Sub Mariner who was Created by Bill Everett in 1939, If Bill Everett were alive he would have been so proud to see Sub Mariner in the Movies, Namor Mckenzie was a Multiculrural star, before Multiculturism and Diversity was popular, He has a Blue Mother from Atlantis and White Father, I have to say Blue people are still very underrepresented, as are Purple People and Green People, but MCU has them represented in Thanos and The Hulk.

I Loved Comics as a kid, you get to read a good story for 15 Cents (I missed out when they were 10 and then 12 Cents, Comics went to 20 Cents then 25 Cents They were sold EVERYWHERE Grocery and Convenience Stores Train and Bus Stations, I got most of mine at the Laurel Diner in Long Beach, New York Right next to the Laurel Diner, I have not seen Comics sold anywhere for over 30 Years I guess Comics were replaced by the Movies, I enjoyed reading more than watching the Movies, It lets the Imagination wander, The Movies keep getting the Characters wrong, The Flash/Barry Allen has Blond Hair in the comics, but in the last Movie he had Black Hair, The Movie Director was Thinking of The Flash Jay Garrick who has Black Hair, Thor in the Comics spoke A Shakespeare type English, but in the Movies he does not he seems like a goofball, which I don;t remember him being goofy in the Comics, Even the Sub Mariner Movie made a Mistake saying he was from Mexico, but his Mother was from Atlantis and his father was a sea Captain from Scotland. I am not sure why they dont look into the Characters History in Comics, before putting them in the Movies with the Obvious and Big Mistakes, Maybe get a long Time Comic Fan and there are Many to take out the Mistakes before the Movies g to the Theaters.

Imeant Right Next to the Laurel Theater in Long Beach New York

They aren’t female or Black versions of characters, they’re entirely new characters.
That being said, it was obvious that Endgame was the end of a big era, with the ending of a lot of the biggest, most iconic of Marvel’s characters. There’s no way Ant Man, any of the Marvels, or really any of the current characters would be able to compete. They aren’t as big in the comics, so it just makes sense they wouldn’t be as big on screen, either.
The acquisition of X-Men CAN change all of that.

Prior to the Avengers films, X-Men were record-breaking titles, with some of Marvel’s most iconic characters ever (Wolverine, Storm, Professor X, Rogue, Phoenix, Cyclops, etc.) If they can launch the new X-Men films correctly, they will have another multi-billion dollar franchise on their hands.

One additional note: I think Marvel has the potential to create an incredible film series based off of Storm, alone. She’s intelligent, strong, powerful, a bit over the top, and incredibly beautiful.

I think Jodie Turner Smith would be perfect in the role. I always felt Halle Berry’s Storm was lackluster.

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And Sam Wilson (Falcon) took up the title of Captain America in the comics before. She-Hulk was a comic book in the 80s. Stan Lee was “woke” in the 60s.

No. They should have ended it with Infinity War. Thanos won fair and square. They cheated by going back in time (which is a dumb storytelling hack). The deaths in Infinity War didn’t mean anything. No emotional significance whatsoever. No consequences. It’s a slap in the face. I stopped watching after Infinity War because I knew that they couldn’t allow something serious/heavy as truly letting a super hero character die.

You mean other than Ironman?

The Marvel shows on Disney+ have been a lot better than the movies lately.

The MCU caught lightning in a bottle with the Infinity Saga.

The Multiverse Saga is just too far out there and doesn't present an interesting enough villain.

Alan

That's the critical point. The MCU is now what the Matrix became. Kill Agent Smith, he comes back, blah blah blah.

Yeah the comics are also dumb. Infinite story lines, and gender swapping characters because there are only so many super powers conceivable. Once you've created all of them, just make a female version.

MCU will never top the Deus Ex Machina event in Endgame where Brie Larson appears out of absolutely nowhere to save the day, followed by the all female hero scene where they wreck Thanos. My daughter was so happy, and after she went to bed I cried tears of joy because I realized we finally have female role models who aren't damsels in distress.

Big shoutout to producer Trinh Tran for fighting to keep that scene in the movie despite worries of pandering. Tran's ideas should bear greater weight in future productions.

The new TV shows being connected makes it difficult to keep up.

The multiversal stuff is eroding the point of the shared universe.

We all know how the Multiverse Saga will end: Big Bang and MCU reset with X-Men included.

They haven't got a Steve Rogers/Tony Stark dynamic or any interesting new characters.

Just do the X-Men reboot!!