In response to a comment stating "No way Katir is clean," Katir replied:
"what hurts friend? while you criticize me that this is normal it is the nature of men when there is another man better than him they envy him, ask your wife if Katir is handsome or not 😼😼 surely your wife would be delighted to be with a winner not a loser."
Further down the thread, he claimed to have passed two drug tests yesterday.
In response to a comment stating "No way Katir is clean," Katir replied:
"what hurts friend? while you criticize me that this is normal it is the nature of men when there is another man better than him they envy him, ask your wife if Katir is handsome or not 😼😼 surely your wife would be delighted to be with a winner not a loser."
Further down the thread, he claimed to have passed two drug tests yesterday.
Katir is the LEAST likely doper, because it's obvious he's always trying very hard. Most dopers make it look easy.
Is there a dope that can make you give 110% effort the whole way through? No, that's just something a few athletes can do but most can't. A mind thing.
In response to a comment stating "No way Katir is clean," Katir replied:
"what hurts friend? while you criticize me that this is normal it is the nature of men when there is another man better than him they envy him, ask your wife if Katir is handsome or not 😼😼 surely your wife would be delighted to be with a winner not a loser."
Further down the thread, he claimed to have passed two drug tests yesterday.
I honestly don't find Katir any more suspicious than the rest of the top guys. I remember it raised some eyebrows when he came out of the pandemic in superhuman shape and then faded in 2021, but this is his 3rd straight year now of being World Class.
In response to a comment stating "No way Katir is clean," Katir replied:
"what hurts friend? while you criticize me that this is normal it is the nature of men when there is another man better than him they envy him, ask your wife if Katir is handsome or not 😼😼 surely your wife would be delighted to be with a winner not a loser."
Further down the thread, he claimed to have passed two drug tests yesterday.
I honestly don't find Katir any more suspicious than the rest of the top guys. I remember it raised some eyebrows when he came out of the pandemic in superhuman shape and then faded in 2021, but this is his 3rd straight year now of being World Class.
Two years ago he ran faster in Florence. It really isn't a normal progression is it? You go from sub-elite to Olympic gold contender in both 1500 and 5000m in the space of one year at age 23, then regress a bit over the next 2 years?
Two years ago he ran faster in Florence. It really isn't a normal progression is it? You go from sub-elite to Olympic gold contender in both 1500 and 5000m in the space of one year at age 23, then regress a bit over the next 2 years?
Not sure if serious…He won the race unlike 2 years ago. He’s also run a big PB in the 3,000.
It appears that one of the wonderful mods deleted the classic 'Katir is the most obvious doper of all time' thread, maybe Rekrunner or Jama Aden.
But there was a stack of info in that thread, including about his shady manager, who has gone on record as stating that athletes caught doping should be given not just a second chance, but a third chance and a fourth chance (he actually used those words).
I honestly don't find Katir any more suspicious than the rest of the top guys. I remember it raised some eyebrows when he came out of the pandemic in superhuman shape and then faded in 2021, but this is his 3rd straight year now of being World Class.
Two years ago he ran faster in Florence. It really isn't a normal progression is it? You go from sub-elite to Olympic gold contender in both 1500 and 5000m in the space of one year at age 23, then regress a bit over the next 2 years?
Katir’s run this year was as good as his 12:50 from 2 years ago. WC bronze in 2022 and 7:24i in February refute your regression claim.
In response to a comment stating "No way Katir is clean," Katir replied:
"what hurts friend? while you criticize me that this is normal it is the nature of men when there is another man better than him they envy him, ask your wife if Katir is handsome or not 😼😼 surely your wife would be delighted to be with a winner not a loser."
Further down the thread, he claimed to have passed two drug tests yesterday.
I honestly don't find Katir any more suspicious than the rest of the top guys. I remember it raised some eyebrows when he came out of the pandemic in superhuman shape and then faded in 2021, but this is his 3rd straight year now of being World Class.
I honestly don't find Katir any more suspicious than the rest of the top guys. I remember it raised some eyebrows when he came out of the pandemic in superhuman shape and then faded in 2021, but this is his 3rd straight year now of being World Class.
Two years ago he ran faster in Florence. It really isn't a normal progression is it? You go from sub-elite to Olympic gold contender in both 1500 and 5000m in the space of one year at age 23, then regress a bit over the next 2 years?
Bruh I’m a bit sad to see such a dumb comment on a running forum. You don’t understand different races result in different times ? You think Jakob regressed because he ran 3:32 in Rabat ? And Hoare ? And pretty much everyone in the race ? And Grant Fisher has lost 10 seconds over 5k ??
Surely Centro regressed from 3:30 to 3:50 in 2016 when he won gold in Rio.
I'm not even disappointed in Katir anymore, I'm disappointed in the people who make excuses and don't see how obvious this case is
Anyone dropping from 3:36 to 3:28 in a year is suspicious as hell. Sorry if this bursts the bubble of fans that like to pretend the top guys are clean.
“Attitudes Toward and Susceptibility to Doping in Spanish Elite and National-Standard Track and Field Athletes: An Examination of the Sport Drug Control Model”
The Sport Drug Control Model (SDCM) is likely to be the model which most explicitly represents the theoretical paradigm of the psychological study of the use of doping in sport. This model can be further developed through its...
According to this study of 257 elite Spanish track and field athletes interviewed for the study, 9.6% admitted they dope. If roughly 10% admit to doping, there is likely an additional percent who dope and did not admit it.
Also, don’t forget about Operation Puerto that identified many top cyclists who were working with the doctor who was arrested.
This is all circumstantial information and in no way implicates that Katir has doped, but it does support many peoples opinions that doping is at least somewhat acceptable to many Spanish high level athletes.
Frankly, 9.6% makes Spain sound good. That's in comparison to other studies on high level athletes that included track in field. Only seeing the abstract, I assume the authors selected the participants, but the participants were otherwise anonymous? Like voting, where your voting record can be looked up publicly, but no one knows how you vote?
