Girls have been allowed to compete in football and wrestling for years. Can girls compete vs boys in track? Run relays with boys teams? Asking for a friend…
Girls have been allowed to compete in football and wrestling for years. Can girls compete vs boys in track? Run relays with boys teams? Asking for a friend…
Why would you? The best highschool girls in the country get beat by mid to low tier varsity guys. Girls also have the equal opportunity to train and race with other girls.
Girls compete against guys in wrestling and football because most schools don’t have a separate girls team. I’m sure you could technically compete against guys but I don’t see the point.
It all depends on their pronouns silly.
It would also depend upon your statewide association. Frankly, outside of dual/tri meets where combining the 4x8s and 3200s, not sure why you would need to.
Yes Katelyn Tuohy would have smoked you in track and xc
The girl can be a boy when she… er… he runs.
I ran 4:11 for 1600 and 15:17 for 5k XC in HS. Tuohy is slow.
I come from a small town and we didn't have enough runners to field two separate XC teams, so the girls and guys ran together. None of the guys on the team (or in the league for that matter) could beat our best female runner, but Lynn Jennings was a generational talent.
A mixed relay is cool when everyone does it. Otherwise it's unfair. The best girls aren't competitive with the best guys.
Wow Jordan Hasay. You’re pretty fast for a HS girl.
So a 9:50 guy in the 3200 is a low tier varsity guy? What world are you living in? Dudes at that level can win city titles, so hard to say they'd be low tier by most people's definition.
Of course there are girls running 10.9 - 11.2 in the 100m and 50-52 in the 400m that are capable of helping a boys relay, but its unlikely to ever happen in a meet of any importance because you need an exceptional top 3, good enough to makeup for having a 11 sec 100m or 51 sec 400m 3rd leg and still have good chance of winning. This creates a very narrow window of teams where it is possible, because most teams don't have 3 guys under 10.8 / 50, and if they do, they likely have a 4th guy faster than the girl. So while the girl could improve most boys relays, she won't improve the teams that have a good shot of winning.
If you're winning races by a large margin as a girl, it might be beneficial to race against boys so that you have some competition.
Small schools are a different thing. I went to a really small school & our top girl could run 17:XX, so she trained with our boys & seemed to enjoy it. She would have had to run a little faster to be of any help to us, but she could have helped a lot of teams we ran against, and it was great to have her join us in workouts. In girls races she had no competition against other small schools, but I think she probably had more fun winning by a country mile against girls than losing a boys race.
Would depend on state association rules. I think in football and wrestling they could since many states do not offer a girls division.
There were boys who played field hockey years ago since it was not offered as a HS for boys. (Not sure if that is still allowed or not).
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It has been generally accepted that a girl can compete in a boys sport if an equivalent sport is not available for the girl to participate.
Football is the obvious one; so is wrestling, although that has slowly become a more common place girls sport in HS.
Baseball has an equal sport in softball. Basketball and basketball. XC and XC. Track and Track. Now do you see why it does not happen?
I've always wondered about it going the other way, as in the field hockey example. What about volleyball? Boys HS volleyball is very rare. I assume there have been boys allowed to play girls HS volleyball???
Of course, there is a stigma of a boy playing with girls (weak, sissy, etc) as opposed to a girl playing with boys (tough, athletic, etc).
As others have mentioned it varies by state but generally speaking girls have been allowed to compete in boys sports (and boys in girls sports) when there is not an equivalent sport offered at their school.
For instance back in the 1990s there was a boy who played field hockey at one of my high schools rivals as there was no boys field hockey team. As others have mentioned it isn't all that uncommon for girls to compete in football or wrestling at the high school level.
Track is usually different as it isn't a team sport (outside of the relay) and generally what I've seen happen is if a school only offered track for one gender, the other gender could practice with the team and maybe participate in meets but it wasn't boys competing against girls but rather the clock / tape for the purpose of qualifying for the state meet.
My freshman year in High School we had a girls track team but not boys b/c we didn't have enough interest to field a team. There were a few boys who practiced with the girls and would compete in the women's meets not against the girls but to be able to qualify for the state meet.
Track was unique in this way since unlike field hockey or other team sports, you could have mixed genders run in the same race but not against one another. In the 1990s the idea that boy would actually race girls for points was viewed as pretty far out and unfair and also against the spirit of Title IX.
Two high school girls have ever broken 11 seconds in the United States, ever, and only 13 have run wind legal times under 11.20 seconds for the 100m. There have also only been 13 girls to ever run under 52.0 seconds for the 400. Last year there were zero girls under 52 seconds for the 400 and 11.20 for the 100 in the entire US. You're talking about generational talents running those kind of times. Last year alone there were over 1,000 boys in the US with wind legal times under 10.97 seconds in the 100m. In the 400m there were over 1,000 boys under 49.65. If I went all the way up to 52.0 seconds that number would likely be several thousand. There is almost no chance any girl is going to help out on a varsity boys sprint relay team, unless you are talking about one of the greatest high school girls ever on an exceptionally bad boys team.
samcallan wrote:
Would depend on state association rules. I think in football and wrestling they could since many states do not offer a girls division.
There were boys who played field hockey years ago since it was not offered as a HS for boys. (Not sure if that is still allowed or not).
This is from almost three years ago.
Sooner or later some girl is going to get seriously hurt vs the boys or a trans athlete thinking he's a girl. Watch what happens to all this silliness when that happens.
At no time in my life and I have three older sisters did I ever have any desires to compete in anything vs girls, that is ridiculous and I know it.
Wow ya beat a girl, yippeeee!!! Girls don't beat bonafude male athletes in sports. If a guy is losing to girls he needs to retire
SAFP couldn't make some Texas HS boys 4x1 teams. A 10.6 just won't work.
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Small schools are a different thing. I went to a really small school & our top girl could run 17:XX, so she trained with our boys & seemed to enjoy it. She would have had to run a little faster to be of any help to us, but she could have helped a lot of teams we ran against, and it was great to have her join us in workouts. In girls races she had no competition against other small schools, but I think she probably had more fun winning by a country mile against girls than losing a boys race.
We had a similar situation in college. A strong men’s team, a weak women’s team except for the top runner who was All-American. She ran with us every day, easy or hard. I think she got more out of having people to chase on the hard days than she would have gotten from just straight dusting her teammates on every repeat.
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