Why did he do this? Just to get the outdoor qualifier out of the way? Is that really an issue? Doesn't he run it enough that he'd get it at conference? I guess this means he'll be training for a big 10,000 somewhere and doesn't want to have to worry about the 5.
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1 Drew Bosley SO-2 Northern Arizona 13:37.77
2 Yotuel Garcia SO-2 Mesa CC 14:33.70
Drew Bosley ran the 5k and 3k at NCAAs, then a week later he ran another 5000, why?
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He basically confirmed your thoughts on Strava.
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He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
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haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
Just like Grant Fisher who ran 12:54 on the cheater track and then
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set the American record in the 10k...
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cramister wrote:
haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
Just like Grant Fisher who ran 12:54 on the cheater track and then
*checks notes
set the American record in the 10k...
Shhhh, this is letsrun. They don’t like it when American runners are fast. Or slow. Or mediocre. They don’t like American runners.
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haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
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New Year New Me New Dreams wrote:
Shhhh, this is letsrun. They don’t like it when American runners are fast. Or slow. Or mediocre. They don’t like American runners.
No. They don't like anyone.
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Big Sky schools are usually at a disadvantage, tough to qualify at altitude conference meet for the 1st round. If you are a 5k/10k guy the outdoor season is kinda boring. Get a qualifier and train. Have to run conference, regionals, NCAAs, USAs in not a lot of weeks.
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haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
He was cruising and looked totally at ease.. yes he wants to just train through and get the qualifying out of the way. Especially when many conf races are tactical and fast times aren't a given.
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New Year New Me New Dreams wrote:
cramister wrote:
Just like Grant Fisher who ran 12:54 on the cheater track and then
*checks notes
set the American record in the 10k...
Shhhh, this is letsrun. They don’t like it when American runners are fast. Or slow. Or mediocre. They don’t like American runners.
They don’t like any runners not just American. Hell, they don’t like any people in general
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Hot Takes wrote:
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
Good post, but I'll give some pushback.
He ran 13:13 2 weeks after NCAA XC, where he did a whole lotta leading on a brutal course. At the very least, I think it's safe to assume that he's probably in better shape after a full track season, and he'll run relatively better in a 10k that's the target race of the regular season. He set the 3k record in January, a better performance than 13:13, and most people see him as a 5k/10k guy, not a 3k guy. Plus, Abdi ran 13:22 indoors at BU before a 13:06 outdoors.
You can extrapolate what Kincaid/Klecker ran at BU/The Ten, but I don't know if it's a good one. Remember, Kincaid smashed Fisher's 5k record, but he ended up 40+ seconds off his 10k time. If you extrapolated what Kincaid/Fisher did at those meets, you'd be expecting Kincaid to run 26:20s. Honestly kinda weird, because 12:55 is a way better performance than 27:05.
3 Stanford sophomores ran 27:40s last year. 27:14 is mad fast, but 27:1x doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me if the conditions are good on the night. Keep in mind what this performance is: A controlled 13:37 (15 mile total for the day) 2 weeks after doubling at NCAAs. Looks to me like he may be going for a World qualifier. He'd only be 4 seconds off, and Abdi went for it last year and ended up making the team.
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Hot Takes wrote:
haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
Let's not forget Falcon could have gone 27:20
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Hot Takes wrote:
haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
Let’s be real, Bosley ran that 13:13 right after xc season and his 7:36 3k is worth 13:03, 27:14 may not be unrealistic after a nice training block
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I think he could run 27:20ish give or take a couple seconds. I definitely think he’s in sub 13:10 shape and he has a crazy engine so it’s not out of reach
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Hot Takes wrote:
haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
No…DF….past 10k times are not relevant
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Klecker and Kincaid had poor pacing at the Ten, and could have run well under 27 with a quicker pacer to 5k and better competition. Kincaid is not the kind of guy to help keep the pace fast; he is the kind of guy to take advantage of a very fast pace (see his first sub-13, which he won after Moh paced them to 4600m, or the 12:51 or even the 27:05). If Drew Bosley said he could run 27:14, believe it.
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Hotter Takes wrote:
Hot Takes wrote:
27:30's is more realistic, I'm not sure why so many people are downvoting the fact that 27:14 isn't very realistic. The stars would have to align for that. Kincaid and Klecker ran 20 seconds faster for the indoor 5k than he did (12:51/12:54). They ran 27:07 ish trying to hit a big time, so extrapolate a 20 second gap and you're looking at 27:40's, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 27:30. Some other guys with 13:10 ish PRs are running 27:20's, so that is also evidence that 27:14 is a little too quick for a 13:14 guy.
Let's not forget Falcon could have gone 27:20
Falcon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bosley
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Loserrun wrote:
New Year New Me New Dreams wrote:
Shhhh, this is letsrun. They don’t like it when American runners are fast. Or slow. Or mediocre. They don’t like American runners.
They don’t like any runners not just American. Hell, they don’t like any people in general
That's the problem when you're 24 and the only time you leave your bedroom in your mother's house is to go to the bathroom.
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haha wrote:
He is nowhere near 27:14 shape. He ran 13:13 on the cheater track. He can't do 13:37 twice on an outdoor track. Chelanga ran a 27:08
I love people who think it's a cheater track like it has some magical powers.. no dude it's just where fast people go to run fast.
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