I have 4.0 GPA, 1500 SAT. Lets say I run the times above by the end of my junior year, would i receive interest from ivys, or other top academic colleges? It would help me come up with a list of target schools
If you’re aiming for an Ivy League probably most, if not all of them (probably not for an athletic scholarship though).
If not, those times can get you on most D1 schools. That’s just my opinion though
The ivy league offers no athletic scholarships period, unless you assume they will start soon due pending lawsuit.
OP for the ivies and the top d3 schools MIT, Williams, amherst, swarthmore, Chicago you would sit right in the sweet spot. Just fast enough to be interesting, and just smart enough to get in without coach burning 1 of his 'help' slots. If your family can pay the bill, you'd get in to school of your choice. If your family earns less than $150k annually, you would get a ton of financial aid.
If you are looking for athletic schol, you'd have to try the better d1 academic schools, but you might not be fast enough.
That's not true. Currently, Harvard's recruiting standards are 9:10 for the 3200, I think 4:10 for the 1600, and an equivalent time for the 800.
I had no help anywhere (admittedly, I didn't want to go to Brown, Cornell, or Dartmouth) with a pre-supershoes 9:10 not even 4 years ago. My GPA was also perfect and I had a 1580. I ended up getting into one without the coach's help
OP, neither Ivies nor D3 institutions have athletic scholarships.
And Ivies don't have merit scholarships either. But some D3 schools do. Not familiar with the current situation at NYU, for one example, but I know that around the turn of the century they had some fantastic merit scholarships. I'd imagine they still do. And they'd love to have someone with those prospective numbers.
Very little. You’re middle of the pack at best. YOU need to be reaching out to schools YOU want to run for and attend school for. Don’t rely on coaches because you’re not on their radar. There’s hundreds of other kids with you exact times
Even though my acedemics and times are slight below OP, will I revive similar interest from top schools compared to him?
You should be hearing from a ton of schools in any case--most with your SAT score will--and there should be some solid D3 colleges and universities among them.
Not how it works. Coaches only care about being fast and smart enough to stay eligible. And no coach is contacting an athlete due to academics because they don't care and aren't aware of test scores.
I have 4.0 GPA, 1500 SAT. Lets say I run the times above by the end of my junior year, would i receive interest from ivys, or other top academic colleges? It would help me come up with a list of target schools
What is your training like? If you run those times off 30-40 miles per week, that’s a big selling point. It shows you have a ton of upside. You could go to a DI coach and tell them about how your undertrained and can tun way faster with an increase in mileage.
You could be a walk-on on some average D1 schools, possibly a very small scholarship for a small d-1 school, like one that is finishing near the bottom of their NCAA region cross country meet. You'd be a good D2 pick-up, and a great D3 runner. There are a fair number of runners with your PRs who run D3, and some of them running in the 4:00-4:05 range in college. I believe there was a sub 4 D3 runner this year?
I have 4.0 GPA, 1500 SAT. Lets say I run the times above by the end of my junior year, would i receive interest from ivys, or other top academic colleges? It would help me come up with a list of target schools
What is your training like? If you run those times off 30-40 miles per week, that’s a big selling point. It shows you have a ton of upside. You could go to a DI coach and tell them about how you’re undertrained and can tun way faster with an increase in mileage.
I’ve often seen your comment about coaches wanting to recruit guys that ran minimal mileage in H.S. I would question why he was so unmotivated and be skeptical about him suddenly becoming dedicated.
I don’t think it implies a lack of motivation - it implies you have the talent to run fast times on low mileage and bad coaching. If you have someone running 9:00 off 50 mpw (ok, this is a little extreme, but I know a 9:05 guy who hasn’t run more than 55 mpw ever) they would likely be able to break 14 off around 70, which sets them up for being all American is a junior and scoring in conference as a sophomore