Anyone want to train an older guy in the 800/1500?

I would suggest Nick Symmomds training plan for You.

2012 log is available for free on internet.

I train after it, and results are very good. Better than training after local couch programms.

A 6’8” high jump shows you’re explosive and a 15:23 shows you have endurance. The 800 could be almost perfect for you

I post this a lot on here, but I found an 800 prediction workout a few years ago that seems to work well. It'll give you an idea of what you can run the 800 in and you can base workouts and race splits off of it.

You can do 2 or 3 sets. My runners did 3 but I usually do 2 and it's within a second either way.

Each set is;

300-200-200-100 (= 800 meters).

Take 1 minute between reps. Stop your watch at the end of each rep but do not reset it.

When the set is complete you'll have a time for 800 meters.

Take full recovery and repeat. Average your times for the sets and that's what you can run an 800 in. It worked for the athletes I coached and it works for me.

Bump. Anyone?

need more recent background info

avg weekly mileage the past year?

highest avg weekly mileage over the course of a month in the past year?

any injury issues at certain mileage?

a lot of us masters on this board actually find the shorter events easier on our bodies than long events, so with that in mind combined with the fact you're prob a natural 400-800 type, i think the 8-15 are great distances to focus on

1. I covered around 3200 miles in 2022 so average was around 60 mpw.

2. Highest avg. over a 4 week period was about 92 mpw or so (max = 101 and min = 83)

3. No issues with injury based on volume. Seem to absorb It pretty well.

In what area of the country are you located?

Boston area.

6'2", has speed, can handle volume

i kinda hate you already, but would still be willing to help

Cool. I appreciate the willingness to lend a hand. What is the best way to communicate? This thread? Email? Google sheet? Let me know.

Where you at in Boston? I'm in a somewhat similar boat, wouldn't mind a training partner...

Belmont. You?

I could help you out at this thread if you think it's interesting. I have so far coached three 800m runners to 1:46- 1:49 and back in 2016 F, Sehohole, South Africa, to a bronze medal in the SA champs 1500m. Also a Kenyan then junior to a silver medal in the 1500m East Africa Champs. No cost for you.🧙‍♂️🇸🇪

Give me a few days but i think a Google sheets doc that is editable by the two of us and viewable by others would be most motivating for you

Helps to know someone/s may be watching

Do you have or can you find any specific events in the area you’re willing to travel to over the outdoor season?

“Events” being meets

Looks like the battle road track club has a twilight series where they host 100-1500 with an odd 5000/10000 sprinkled in. Dates below .

Saturday May 13
Saturday May 20
Saturday June 3
Saturday June 17

Just about perfect actually.

Sounds good and thanks. I’ll just plan on running 6-8 miles a day this week and doing strides 2x or something.

Your coaching, I hope, doesn't require the athlete to wear special underwear, does it?

how much did you weigh when you cleared 2.05?

what was your PB in the 200, and was your weight about the same as when you went 2.05? i know it's been about 15 years, but using that and your weight difference then and now will give me a pretty good idea of what you're capable of.

in terms of longer distance capacity, i'll assume you're 6-12 weeks away from being back in striking distance of 15:20s.

last year the masters 35-39 800 was won in 2:00.92 run w/a negative split going 61.85-59.08. prob equivalent to 1:58-high sort of fitness.

with 15:30ish 5000 capacity combined with naturally being best around the hj/200/400, i think you've got a chance to win a masters national championship in the 800.

nationals are july 20-23 in greensboro. could be fun.