Endorphin pro 2 or vaporfly better at 5-6:30 pace

i have both the endorphin pro 2 and the vaporfly next %, but I am not nearly as fast as the paces you asked about.

That said, I would say the vaporfly is a faster shoe and by quite a bit. Simply put, I would put it as a race day shoe and the Endorphin pro 2 more like a peppy workout shoe.

The vaporfly has more cushioning and bounce. It feels like it is returning loads more energy.

I have a feeling that the Endorphin Pro 2 is going to last a lot longer than the Nike.

Currently, I use the vaporfly for races and the Pro 2 as an everday workout shoe when I want a moderate amount of cushioning common in the plated shoes.

The Pro 2 is also a lot cheaper, btw.

hm the main reason i asked is because i saw in multiple other threads that the pro was better at faster paces on the track...

The nike vaporfly might be a lot of cushioning for a track and faster runners may find it less than ideal cornering due to its high stack. I can see how some might prefer the Pro 2 on the track.

Endorphin Pro 3 is the way to go! It is a 1000% better than Pro 2

I tried on the Endorphin Pro 3 but haven't run in it. It feels significantly more cushiony than the Pro 2.

I only have the vaporfly and it’s been amazing. I run about 10 mpw on them (cv to threshold), have had them for nearly 200 miles, and they still have the pop. I don’t feel out of control going around turns with them, even on an indoor (admittedly oversized) track. I typically run threshold at about 4:50-4:55

My form does change a bit with them, but it’s almost imperceptible. I find switching gears easy

I also have both shoes. I do primarily interval workouts at 4:30 to 6:00 pace. The Pro 2 bruises my left ball of foot. It just seems to land much harder than the Vaporfly Next % 2. I switch back and forth, but I strongly prefer the Vaporfly Next% over the Pro 2.

A plate shoe worth considering is the Atreyu Artist. It's better than the Pro 2 and only a little less bouncy than the Vaporfly. At $100, it's an incredible bargain for a plate shoe.

takumi sen? will it be to unstable

That is a very wide pace range. I can run 6:30 quite easily but have never run a 5:00 mile!

This is exactly how I do it. The endorphin pro 2 doesn't feel like a "super shoe" but it's a great daily running shoe. Very comfortable, fits me well, no drawbacks. But doesn't have the pop I want on race day. The foam isn't as bouncy. The price is reasonable.

The Vapor Next% 2 has been my race day shoe. It has very good bounce, fits good and is comfortable. The only thing I don't like about it is that the upper is quite open around the heal and that allows pebbles to get in my shoe far too frequently. It's a very fast shoe, though. The price is high. These will become my fast-day shoe, when I retire them from racing.

I recently bought a pair of Alphafly 2s which seem to have all the bounce of the Next% 2 but with a sock-like upper that's more snug around the ankle and lets nothing in. This is going to be my next marathon and half marathon shoe. These are very expensive so they will only be a race day shoe for me.

I like the endorphin pros for workouts. They have a lower profile and feel nimbler, whereas the next% lets you slog out fast miles for a long time. I personally like using the pros for anything from 400m to 1k repeats since they're quick and even for mile repeats, but I'd say the next% is good for longer work like mile repeats up to long runs.

All I wanna add is that no, the vaporfly 2 will NOT last 2 track/xc seasons if you mean 2 entire years.

Takumi Sen is the bridge shoe between traditional and cheater. Why do you need a super cushioned shoe on tracks that are already super cushioned themselves? How much cushioning does your generation need anyway?

Unstable? What are you - the hypochondriac of running footwear? The Takumi will be just fine for any distance thru half 'thon.

Stop being such a prima donna - just run baby.

Where would runners be without the spring board effect of today's super shoes?