I mean seriously, we’re talking about a 13:11 guy against a couple of high schoolers.
I don't know about that. Brosnan said Lex and Leo are in 13:20 shape right now. I don't know that Nico is in that kind of shape at the moment.
Who knows about the 13:20, right now Nicos had a lot more development so of course he’ll be better. But it’s crazy to have three brothers as fast as the Youngs are. Nico Young seemed like a generational XC and 5k talent and his little brothers have been almost more impressive with their high school times
It’ll be interesting seeing what they do at NCAA xc in 2023 for sure
I mean seriously, we’re talking about a 13:11 guy against a couple of high schoolers.
I don't know about that. Brosnan said Lex and Leo are in 13:20 shape right now. I don't know that Nico is in that kind of shape at the moment.
When asked about that statement Brosnan admitted that Leo and Lex actually weren't in 13:20 shape right now but that he had meant they were in progress to possibly be in 13:20 shape by June 2023 when they graduatehigh school. Big difference.
I mean seriously, we’re talking about a 13:11 guy against a couple of high schoolers.
As between Lex and Leo, it really seems to depend on who has been healthier lately. If one is actually a little more talented, I don’t know how most of us would be able to have figured that out.
I mean seriously, we’re talking about a 13:11 guy against a couple of high schoolers.
As between Lex and Leo, it really seems to depend on who has been healthier lately. If one is actually a little more talented, I don’t know how most of us would be able to have figured that out.
Leo beat Lex by at least 1 second every time it counted in XC (and lost to Colin). He may have the better kick overall. He just has way worse luck with health unfortunately, so Lex has more opportunities to PR in track.
If healthy for the full year, I would expect Leo to be the #1 runner this year.
As between Lex and Leo, it really seems to depend on who has been healthier lately. If one is actually a little more talented, I don’t know how most of us would be able to have figured that out.
Leo beat Lex by at least 1 second every time it counted in XC (and lost to Colin). He may have the better kick overall. He just has way worse luck with health unfortunately, so Lex has more opportunities to PR in track.
If healthy for the full year, I would expect Leo to be the #1 runner this year.
I don’t know them and haven’t followed them that closely, but here is what I thought the sequence was since they are talked about a lot on this forum. A Milesplit head to head meet comparison seems to back this up. It’s one good feature of that website.
2019 - Lex usuallly is faster.
After 2019, both of them have had sicknesses or injuries that impact current health or continuity of training. The one that is winning seems to be the one that has had a longer stretch since the last sickness or injury.
As between Lex and Leo, it really seems to depend on who has been healthier lately. If one is actually a little more talented, I don’t know how most of us would be able to have figured that out.
Leo beat Lex by at least 1 second every time it counted in XC (and lost to Colin). He may have the better kick overall. He just has way worse luck with health unfortunately, so Lex has more opportunities to PR in track.
If healthy for the full year, I would expect Leo to be the #1 runner this year.
I agree. He got second at RL last year so he will come to nationals with a chip on his shoulder and win. We can forget about what he has or hasn’t done on track. Based on the L and L videos, he has been fit and ready to compete a while ago.
Leo beat Lex by at least 1 second every time it counted in XC (and lost to Colin). He may have the better kick overall. He just has way worse luck with health unfortunately, so Lex has more opportunities to PR in track.
If healthy for the full year, I would expect Leo to be the #1 runner this year.
I think it makes a lot of sense for Leo to be the favorite. Even after he had to take time off indoors due to injury, he still came back and beat Lex by significant margins. Most notably in the 4:00 mile he ran in March where Lex ran 4:04. I've been thinking though, and I think Lex might end up on top this year.
I'm thinking Lex may have a mental block that prevents him from beating Leo if it comes down to a kick between them. Lex's best races have all come when Leo wasn't with him at the end. His 7:57i was mindblowing. He crushed Fernandez's old time, Hunter's old time, was only .1 off Nico's record, and Leo wasn't even entered. Same with his 13:43. His 8:35 happened when Leo was sick and finished 30 seconds back. His 8:43 sophomore year happened when Leo was never with the front pack.
Coming into the new season and listening to their podcast, I think they're pretty much even. Leo probably has a better kick, but Lex has a bit more strength. I think they'll go back and forth all season, but Lex will come out on top in the post-season because he seems to run better with different competition, and he's more consistent.
I don't know about that. Brosnan said Lex and Leo are in 13:20 shape right now. I don't know that Nico is in that kind of shape at the moment.
Who knows about the 13:20, right now Nicos had a lot more development so of course he’ll be better. But it’s crazy to have three brothers as fast as the Youngs are. Nico Young seemed like a generational XC and 5k talent and his little brothers have been almost more impressive with their high school times
It’ll be interesting seeing what they do at NCAA xc in 2023 for sure
It's impressive to have a fast family but they aren't the first. The ingebrigtsens are one. The borlees another. Talent usually runs in the family. Look at the mannings
Leo is better than Lex now. The result at Clovis showed this.
we can throw out Leo’s absence from the end of the track season. His absence also allowed the seniors who didn’t make varsity for cross (like Blunt or Hughes-Windham) to finish their hs careers on varsity track. And new seniors like Adam Olson.
Nico is beast. The best MD collegiate runner. Hicks is average on the track....
I doubt L&L will ever reach a point where one of them is considered the best runner in college. They showed almost no improvement from their junior year.
I think they have peaked in HS and other studs from this class will have more success in the long run. Burns and Simeon Birnbaum come to mind. Junior Daniel Simmons has the most upside.
I mean seriously, we’re talking about a 13:11 guy against a couple of high schoolers.
I don't know about that. Brosnan said Lex and Leo are in 13:20 shape right now. I don't know that Nico is in that kind of shape at the moment.
If they're in 13:20 shape then there are a bunch of sub 13:20 high schoolers right now! 11th and 35th place isn't great for two dudes who are supposed to be the best. Aaron Sahlman dominated everyone, he's the best. And even he probably isn't going to be a 13:20 guy this year, maybe 13:30's and even that would be impressive.
Nico is beast. The best MD collegiate runner. Hicks is average on the track....
I doubt L&L will ever reach a point where one of them is considered the best runner in college. They showed almost no improvement from their junior year.
I think they have peaked in HS and other studs from this class will have more success in the long run. Burns and Simeon Birnbaum come to mind. Junior Daniel Simmons has the most upside.
I think Aaron Sahlman may have the most long term success, national XC champion with a 204 speed rating and a 1:48 800m PR at 16.
He very well could be our next Copper Teare/Cole Hocker level NCAA runner. I’ve always believed the best way to see what high school runner has the most 1500m potential is to look for national level cross country runners who can throw down crazy fast 800m times.
Cole Hockers a great example of this winning footlocker and running 1:50 in high school.