With Beamish’s 5k just now I think it’s clear OAC has utterly underperformed at Worlds. I’m a huge fan, but maybe those great performances indoors really did reflect too early of a peak this year? What gives?
Update from LRC on July 25.
The NY Times had a big feature on Saturday on how shoe companies sponsor teams now and it focused a lot on the OAC. In the article, Ritz said, “We had kind of a rough meet."
Hoare and Beamish have never been models of consistency. Both had 1 Ncaa title and underperformed in all following championships. Give them time to develop and learn
I think it’s time to realize that Beamish just isn’t very good. He’s a poor distance runner with a tremendous kick, so either he should be in the 800/1,500 or nothing. Hoare was bad in the final, but Klecker and Garcia Romo overperformed for sure. Monson was ok.
Idk if I'd say Beamish isn't very good, I think his NCAA title and Millrose win show he's certainly good. He outkicked Hocker and Teare who were in 3:50 shape. He ran 13:12 and can close like a freight train, so he may just need another year of consistent training to be able to compete in the final.
So far, I think Klecker was really good, Monson was ok, and Hoare/Beamish underperformed. I think we'll need to wait till the postseason before we know if Hoare/Beamish mistimed their peaks or if they just had a bad day.
I think it’s time to realize that Beamish just isn’t very good. He’s a poor distance runner with a tremendous kick, so either he should be in the 800/1,500 or nothing. Hoare was bad in the final, but Klecker and Garcia Romo overperformed for sure. Monson was ok.
I think it’s time to realize that Beamish just isn’t very good. He’s a poor distance runner with a tremendous kick, so either he should be in the 800/1,500 or nothing. Hoare was bad in the final, but Klecker and Garcia Romo overperformed for sure. Monson was ok.
OAC does not get credit for Garcia Romo's performance lol
As people said with Jacob one of reasons he lost is he reacted to Tim’s moves a few times. Slight changes in pace probably do not take too much energy but there is also an impact to mental energy and concentration. Be interested in Ollie take next podcast but I think what happened is he was up and down the field a few times reacting to moves and that took up too much mental and physical energy and had nothing left final straight. I just think some of you guys have no idea about the sport at the highest level. I always remember folks saying 5 seconds at ncaa XC can be 8 spots and I think here Ollie was at 95% and ar this level in a tactical race it doesn’t get it done. I means it’s ifs and buts at this stage but I really believe if he was in that final the way the race went he’s no worse that 6th/7th and you cannot say that’s a bad race. Ripping on On because of this seems silly.
I think they are either suffering because of the heat or they haven't recovered from the intensity of the Olympic cycle. But Hoare going out in the 1500 semi-finals was a surprise. Same with Beamish not doing great in the 5000 final. Klecker and Monsoon did ok though
Klecker did as well as he could. There's no one who finished in front of him that you'd expect him to beat and a few guys behind who have stronger PBs, like Gressier, Worku, Rayner, and Kwemoi. Monson was fine, should maybe have beaten the two in front of her.
Hoare is the shocker, ran a tactically poor race, out in lane two at the wrong time.
Beamish is just not set up to compete at the global level over 1500 or 5000. He'll win races on the US circuit where he can still find slow races with a kick finish but that's never going to be enough when you get to the global level. I'm certain it's a mental issue with Beamish as he's a strong 5k runner - Wightman couldn't run a 13:12 5k. Ritz should have him go out and lead a few races to get comfortably working from the gun rather than waiting for the last 400.
Geordie's only running 5 days a week right now. If he can manage to bump up the volume a bit and stay injury-free I think it'll show, especially in the longer distances.
Very talented team, juicy budget, rookie coach. OAC need an experienced assistant coach or mentor. Klecker and Monson were fine, any event that requires nuance is well beyond Ritz's capabilities for now.
Ritz is going to have to really analyze his last couple of weeks of prep for Worlds... team was on FIRE all year and yes, this has been a horrendous showing for OAC. I've heard something along the lines that they stayed up at altitude too long.. Monson had no legs in the 10,000m and just couldn't be competitive; Hoare was a complete disaster; Beamish looked lost; Klecker did fine.
Would love to hear a podcast with Ritz post-Eugene.
With Beamish’s 5k just now I think it’s clear OAC has utterly underperformed at Worlds. I’m a huge fan, but maybe those great performances indoors really did reflect too early of a peak this year? What gives?
And just 2 weeks ago, ritz was a demigod. Sheesh…this place is oddly fickle.
Ritz is going to have to really analyze his last couple of weeks of prep for Worlds... team was on FIRE all year and yes, this has been a horrendous showing for OAC. I've heard something along the lines that they stayed up at altitude too long.. Monson had no legs in the 10,000m and just couldn't be competitive; Hoare was a complete disaster; Beamish looked lost; Klecker did fine.
Would love to hear a podcast with Ritz post-Eugene.
maybe they’ll get it all out in their coffee club podcast…maybe even talk a little shît on themselves?
Just about everyone who's joined to the group has turned into a huge success story. But, I think because they're fun to root for people maybe raised their expectations a little too high after those indoor results.
Beamish is a 13:12 guy, while a huge improvement from college he's still giving up almost 30 seconds to the top tier. Yeah he looked bad and fell off early, but just keeping him healthy for a year and getting him to this starting line was huge win for Ritz.
Ritz is going to have to really analyze his last couple of weeks of prep for Worlds... team was on FIRE all year and yes, this has been a horrendous showing for OAC. I've heard something along the lines that they stayed up at altitude too long.. Monson had no legs in the 10,000m and just couldn't be competitive; Hoare was a complete disaster; Beamish looked lost; Klecker did fine.
Would love to hear a podcast with Ritz post-Eugene.
It seems like Ritz pushed them a bit too hard the last several weeks. If you listen back to the Coffee Club pod and cross reference it with Klecker’s Strava, you can see how hard they’ve been training. Everybody trains hard, but the last few months for the OAC have had loads of quality and have gotten away from the tempo/threshold work that Beamish and Monson seem to thrive off of. I think they just over cooked things a bit leading into worlds and probably peaked around Oslo. Beamish is tremendously talented but I don’t think he’s ready to be working out with Klecker. I wonder if that is why Beamish was flat. He ran really well early indoors off of mostly tempo and threshold work with some speed and sprinkled in. Beamish should just do that stuff 95% of the year and hit a few (emphasis on few) quality workouts leading into big races. Same for Monson.
Ritz is going to have to really analyze his last couple of weeks of prep for Worlds... team was on FIRE all year and yes, this has been a horrendous showing for OAC. I've heard something along the lines that they stayed up at altitude too long.. Monson had no legs in the 10,000m and just couldn't be competitive; Hoare was a complete disaster; Beamish looked lost; Klecker did fine.
Would love to hear a podcast with Ritz post-Eugene.
It seems like Ritz pushed them a bit too hard the last several weeks. If you listen back to the Coffee Club pod and cross reference it with Klecker’s Strava, you can see how hard they’ve been training. Everybody trains hard, but the last few months for the OAC have had loads of quality and have gotten away from the tempo/threshold work that Beamish and Monson seem to thrive off of. I think they just over cooked things a bit leading into worlds and probably peaked around Oslo. Beamish is tremendously talented but I don’t think he’s ready to be working out with Klecker. I wonder if that is why Beamish was flat. He ran really well early indoors off of mostly tempo and threshold work with some speed and sprinkled in. Beamish should just do that stuff 95% of the year and hit a few (emphasis on few) quality workouts leading into big races. Same for Monson.
Wrote that down in my notebook. Thanks for the advice!