I know it's an individual sport and they have their own interests and sponsors to consider, but what if Holloway and Cunningham had refused to run unless Allen was allowed to run under protest. It would have been an epic statement in solidarity against that bad DQ acknowledging that it could have happened to any of them.
I know it's an individual sport and they have their own interests and sponsors to consider, but what if Holloway and Cunningham had refused to run unless Allen was allowed to run under protest. It would have been an epic statement in solidarity against that bad DQ acknowledging that it could have happened to any of them.
lol nah. when you're on the line it's every man for himself.
I know it's an individual sport and they have their own interests and sponsors to consider, but what if Holloway and Cunningham had refused to run unless Allen was allowed to run under protest. It would have been an epic statement in solidarity against that bad DQ acknowledging that it could have happened to any of them.
Easy peasy. Had they refused to run the race would have gone off without them.
exactly, essentially to embarrass world athletics into changing the rule. "if you're gonna DQ for that .001 which could happen to any of us and obviously gained no advantage, we refuse to run. if you want to run the race without the top 4 guys (due to parchment's injury as well), go ahead and run this joke of a race."
They weren’t watching NBC. They didn’t know you couldn’t see any difference between Holloway and Allen in slow motion. They very likely didn’t know he was disqualified by 1/1000 of a second
I know it's an individual sport and they have their own interests and sponsors to consider, but what if Holloway and Cunningham had refused to run unless Allen was allowed to run under protest. It would have been an epic statement in solidarity against that bad DQ acknowledging that it could have happened to any of them.
That's a horrible idea. Plus their contracts give them bonus money for getting a World Championship medal. They should give that up too?
Allen wouldn't have won anyway. He has one fast race this season and the rest are more than 0.2 slower. He didn't look that great in heats and semi either. Holloway has been much more consistent. The bigger thing was Parchment getting injured just before the start.
They weren’t watching NBC. They didn’t know you couldn’t see any difference between Holloway and Allen in slow motion. They very likely didn’t know he was disqualified by 1/1000 of a second
This needs to be emphasized. Holloway and Cunningham were in total focus mode, in the zone. All they knew was that a false start happened. That’s it. Then they went back into their starting block routine.
They weren’t watching NBC. They didn’t know you couldn’t see any difference between Holloway and Allen in slow motion. They very likely didn’t know he was disqualified by 1/1000 of a second
This needs to be emphasized. Holloway and Cunningham were in total focus mode, in the zone. All they knew was that a false start happened. That’s it. Then they went back into their starting block routine.
This.
It's as big of a moment as they'll have in their career, and in that minute, with minimal knowledge about Allen's FS (e.g. not access to replay to see no apparent FS), financial implications on the line, and year(s) of work for this moment, you suddenly expect their minds to shift to some altruistic protest? I shouldn't have bothered responding to this thread, it's such an asinine topic.
I know it's an individual sport and they have their own interests and sponsors to consider, but what if Holloway and Cunningham had refused to run unless Allen was allowed to run under protest. It would have been an epic statement in solidarity against that bad DQ acknowledging that it could have happened to any of them.
Death, taxes, and people posting really stupid things on letsrun...
They weren’t watching NBC. They didn’t know you couldn’t see any difference between Holloway and Allen in slow motion. They very likely didn’t know he was disqualified by 1/1000 of a second
This needs to be emphasized. Holloway and Cunningham were in total focus mode, in the zone. All they knew was that a false start happened. That’s it. Then they went back into their starting block routine.
Yeah unfortunately that speculation is just incorrect according to Holloway and Cunningham.
Listen to the post-race interview with Holloway: "I told Devin to go protest."
Listen to the post-race interview with Cunningham: "We didn't think he false started, none of the athletes did and we really wanted him to run." ... "We thought he should have stayed"..."He didn't false start"
I think the 0.100 is set based with some cushion. In other words, its set *well* below, not just on the edge of human reaction times.
I doubt he intentionally tried to "guess" the gun, but if you go before 0.100, you have guessed, voluntarily or involuntarily, the gun.
This doesn't make any sense. How can one "involuntarily" guess the gun? As you said, 0.1 is on the edge of human reaction times. He didn't "guess" anything—he was simply DQ'd for getting off the blocks as fast as he could when he heard the gun.
And I for one actually agree with the OP. It would have made a huge statement if all the Americans refused to run unless/until Allen was allowed to run under protest. And if the officials kicked them all out, it makes the officials—not the Americans—look bad. Not that they necessarily should have refused to run, but it would have been an awesome gesture.
I think the 0.100 is set based with some cushion. In other words, its set *well* below, not just on the edge of human reaction times.
I doubt he intentionally tried to "guess" the gun, but if you go before 0.100, you have guessed, voluntarily or involuntarily, the gun.
This doesn't make any sense. How can one "involuntarily" guess the gun? As you said, 0.1 is on the edge of human reaction times. He didn't "guess" anything—he was simply DQ'd for getting off the blocks as fast as he could when he heard the gun.
And I for one actually agree with the OP. It would have made a huge statement if all the Americans refused to run unless/until Allen was allowed to run under protest. And if the officials kicked them all out, it makes the officials—not the Americans—look bad. Not that they necessarily should have refused to run, but it would have been an awesome gesture.
it would have been epically stupid for them to refuse to race and if I was their sponsor, I would terminate their contracts on the spot.