New Balance Boston Womens 800m Time Trial - Very Fast

Unfortunately for them, Kipyegon ran a 3:52 already this year and none of them are even in the same zip code as that or the best 1500 runners that will be at Worlds. Should be a good fight for 5th place though.

There is no shot that this is the best w1500 team we’ve ever sent to wc/og— that’s an insane take. You can’t compare based on times anymore.

Shannon Rowbury and Jenny Simpson were pretty good back in their day and shared a few teams together.

How nice, a super shoe time trial.
looks like this group is the BTC of the east, private time trials, this one and their indoor TT DMR, hope they aren’t hitting the burrito truck like BTC.

Relax bro, it was a workout not a sanctioned private race. Hardly the same as BTC

I'm pretty sure Heather McLean showed up at an all-comers meet in New England a few weeks back to race an 800. Do you think Elise Cranny is doing something like that?

Specifically, in Rio they were 3rd and 4th. The third woman on that team was Brenda Martinez, a 1:57/4:00 runner and World silver medalist at 800. This year's team is strong, no doubt, but that 2016 team was without question much stronger (3:56, 3:57, 4:00, and 7 global medals between the three of them).

56 / 1:02

LOLOLOL.

Relax, dude. TTs are part of training and they're not pretending it's a sanctioned race or result. (Obviously, with a rolling start and hand time.)

What I want to know is are they in the NB MD-X spike?

Kipyegon is great and should win easily, BUT running the 800 is different than running a great 1500. Faith got beat convincingly by Mary Moraa at Kenyan Trials and ran 1:58.0. For Purrier who is definitely coming at the 1500 from the strength side, running a 57-62 type PB effort is good. Granted, the concerning part about her recent form hasn't been speed, it's been her strength. Last year, she ran from the gun and pulled off a controlled 3:58. This year she couldn't shake off Schweizer or McGee. That being said, she wasn't healthy at the Olympics last year and this year she is. While beating Kipyegon or Tsegay seems really unlikely, maybe Sinclaire/Purrier have a chance at bronze with Muir looking a tad off and the other Ethiopians really good, but a little unproven (maybe?).

Pre super shoes as well

Do you really think JM&SP are better than Uceny, Rowbury & Simpson in 2011 & 2012?

In 2011, Uceny won 3 DL races and the DL Championship, and Simpson won Worlds. 2011 was a down year for Rowbury, but in 2012, she came 4th at the London Olympics.

As far as I know, the best JM&SP have managed is Johnson's 4th at Pre this year.

Given how quickly and completely Uceny's career imploded, it's easy to forget how good she was.

I think it's impossible to say conclusively until their careers have unfolded. I mean, if they end up with a bunch of medals between the three of them, and some outrageous times, then the claim will be proven correct.

Unlikely maybe, but you have to realize that that's what you do when you retrospectively say, for instance, Uceny/Rowbury/Simpson was a better team - many of their accomplishments that make them seem highly accomplished came after the years you mentioned.

This is a nice workout but it’s not that impressive or a sign of good things to come I don’t think. They had a full running start so probably add a second. Also the massive positive split isn’t great for a time time trial situation. Seems in line with what you’d expect. Maybe Heather should run more 800s though. I believe that was her focus in college.

running ~3:59-4:00 off of just a ~1:59 800 is insane. I don't understand how their endurance is that good. I needed to break 1:53 to run 4:19 for the full mile which is about equivalent to a 4:00 1500.

Not necessarily. Your training was probably catered more toward your speed, but there are plenty of people (guys especially) who have run around 4:16 with just 1:57 speed.

The point was to do a massive positive split and feel the burn that last 200m. Solid TT. And yes, Elle didn't look like Elle at trials. Hopefully she is back and ready to rumble. Temps will be a touch cooler at Worlds than at trials. Should help her.

Barring injury, you nail on Faith and Gudaf gold and silver. Meshesha, a training partner of Gudaf, front run a 3:57 in Ostrava and would be favourite for 3rd. Sifan is listed for the 1500 right now; if she does that she jumps into the medal favourite spots. If The Big Three run, then Johnson/Purrier are in the fight for 4-6 vs Hailu and Hull.

St Pierre is hard to read this year. Her races so far in 2022:

Millrose - 4:19 - very good.

Indoor nats 15 - awful execution, did not look good.

Indoor nats 3k - very good, terrifying finish.

Indoor worlds 3k - arguably the best race of her career. Last 800 in 2:04.

Pre 1500 - sub 4, but never looked in the mix and seemed uncomfortable.

US trials 1500 - blown away by Johnson, handily beaten by McGee. Did not look comfortable.

US trials 5k - beaten by Allie Ostrander, 30 seconds off the leaders. Guessing she just gave up. Worrying given Schweizer had the same races in her legs but was fighting for the win while Purrier was dead in the water 2 laps to go. Worst race of her pro career by a huge margin.

Which St Pierre we get is the big question. If she runs how she did at US trials or indoor 1500 nationals, she is at risk of not making the final. If she runs it like she ran in Belgrade? Could steal her first outdoor medal. Huge gap between her floor and ceiling.

You don't make the final based on times. I doubt very much all 3 make the final. I can see St. Pierre not making the final if she's in a slow semi.