Well, he's never really done any road racing before so we can't say how good he is on roads compared to the track...but I would say he would probably lose to Kipruto but would be right up there with Kandie. Consider that Mantz ran 28:04 at Peachtree, and I would say Fisher could probably finish ~30s ahead of him. Now I would say Mantz is probably good for ~27:15 on the track these days, but I would also say that Fisher is much less experienced on the roads than Mantz.
So, that puts Fisher at around 27:34 and fighting with Kandie for 2nd place. Kipruto is just too good and too experienced on the roads, imo.
Kind of hard to tell. Would the Bowerman team time trial go off before the wheelchair racers when it was dark (but then they would have an advantage of it being cooler).
Fisher is a gamer. Would have gone for the $53k bonus so 26:59 FTW.
Kipruto and Kandie were running scared today. They knew Mantz was in the field and likely stalking them in their footsteps. Ready to pounce at any time.
Well, he's never really done any road racing before so we can't say how good he is on roads compared to the track...but I would say he would probably lose to Kipruto but would be right up there with Kandie. Consider that Mantz ran 28:04 at Peachtree, and I would say Fisher could probably finish ~30s ahead of him. Now I would say Mantz is probably good for ~27:15 on the track these days, but I would also say that Fisher is much less experienced on the roads than Mantz.
So, that puts Fisher at around 27:34 and fighting with Kandie for 2nd place. Kipruto is just too good and too experienced on the roads, imo.
Why would running 10K on the roads be any different than on the track? Even if it’s a hilly course, Mantz wouldn’t close the advantage Fisher has on the track.
Well, he's never really done any road racing before so we can't say how good he is on roads compared to the track...but I would say he would probably lose to Kipruto but would be right up there with Kandie. Consider that Mantz ran 28:04 at Peachtree, and I would say Fisher could probably finish ~30s ahead of him. Now I would say Mantz is probably good for ~27:15 on the track these days, but I would also say that Fisher is much less experienced on the roads than Mantz.
So, that puts Fisher at around 27:34 and fighting with Kandie for 2nd place. Kipruto is just too good and too experienced on the roads, imo.
Why would running 10K on the roads be any different than on the track? Even if it’s a hilly course, Mantz wouldn’t close the advantage Fisher has on the track.
Hills would certainly make a difference, and I also think the surface makes a slight difference. It seems reasonable to think that instead of Fisher being 40s ahead of Mantz on the track he'd only be 30-35s ahead of him on a moderately hilly road course. Not sure why I was getting downvoted for that.
Is running on the roads really that different than the track, such that it's a completely different skill? In my experience, no it's not, running is running. He would have done just as good as he would have if it were a track race.
Is running on the roads really that different than the track, such that it's a completely different skill? In my experience, no it's not, running is running. He would have done just as good as he would have if it were a track race.
I think that's an oversimplification. In my experience, I prefered track to the roads back in the day. Never really got in a good 5k or 10k road race, despite good track fitness.
For instance, the 10k road world record is held by Rhonex Kipruto, not Cheptegei. Cheptegei is a distant 2nd on the road 10k list despite having multiple cracks at a fast road 10k. The surface affects everyone differently. It's obviously not a massive effect, but maybe 5-10 seconds or so for elites?
Is running on the roads really that different than the track, such that it's a completely different skill? In my experience, no it's not, running is running. He would have done just as good as he would have if it were a track race.
Might depend on the kind of runner you are. Geordie Beamish was talking about it on Coffee Club and he was saying it's more difficult to judge when to kick on the road. For time triallers, it probably makes less difference
Is running on the roads really that different than the track, such that it's a completely different skill? In my experience, no it's not, running is running. He would have done just as good as he would have if it were a track race.
I think that's an oversimplification. In my experience, I prefered track to the roads back in the day. Never really got in a good 5k or 10k road race, despite good track fitness.
For instance, the 10k road world record is held by Rhonex Kipruto, not Cheptegei. Cheptegei is a distant 2nd on the road 10k list despite having multiple cracks at a fast road 10k. The surface affects everyone differently. It's obviously not a massive effect, but maybe 5-10 seconds or so for elites?
Your post is also an oversimplification. If Cheptegei ran a road 10K in place of his track 10,000 he would likely have the WR in that as well. He broke the 5k road record to start his 2020 season.
Kind of hard to tell. Would the Bowerman team time trial go off before the wheelchair racers when it was dark (but then they would have an advantage of it being cooler).
I believe Lomong was there representing btc, was he not?
Kind of hard to tell. Would the Bowerman team time trial go off before the wheelchair racers when it was dark (but then they would have an advantage of it being cooler).
I believe Lomong was there representing btc, was he not?