Sacral stress fracture, as reported by David Monti on Twitter.
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I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
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westsouthrunner wrote:
I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
…karma for leaving BTC? You have got to be kidding. The BTC team is a huge threat to the integrity of the sport, and any athlete associating with the team is suspect to extra suspicion. Honestly, if I were GDS I would’ve followed the same path. It was wise to leave so that she can pursue success in a much more clean and honest environment.
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southestrunner wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
…karma for leaving BTC? You have got to be kidding. The BTC team is a huge threat to the integrity of the sport, and any athlete associating with the team is suspect to extra suspicion. Honestly, if I were GDS I would’ve followed the same path. It was wise to leave so that she can pursue success in a much more clean and honest environment.
The sport doesn’t need “fans” like you.
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Get well soon.
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Shaved Fish wrote:
southestrunner wrote:
…karma for leaving BTC? You have got to be kidding. The BTC team is a huge threat to the integrity of the sport, and any athlete associating with the team is suspect to extra suspicion. Honestly, if I were GDS I would’ve followed the same path. It was wise to leave so that she can pursue success in a much more clean and honest environment.
The sport doesn’t need “fans” like you.
You guys know everyone doesn't have to agree on everything. I think her throwing Shelby under the bus was class-LESS. Just because a coach believes in their athlete(Jerry believing in Shelby) doesn't make them a bad person. A coach can and should 100% believe in their training. His training obviously works for those that can stay healthy. On the Oslo live reaction thread theres both people insinuating that Karissa is dirty because she ran somewhat close to Shelby but not Alicia Monson who just ran 14:31. They think if she broke the record it would be clean. That makes no sense. Kinda reminds me of when Coburn basically said anyone faster than me is doping. Was she then considered a doper when she beat everyone at the world championships? Where does it stop. Monson is coached by Ritz who was coached for some time by Salazar( a doping coach lol) should we start saying Ritz has no integrity due to association? It's ridiculous. and if all those associations were the case almost no one has integrity
I am a huge fan and supporter of the sport and will continue to enjoy it for years to come. Sad that Shelby went down for doping. I will never truly know if she did it and it doesn't matter because she is banned or 4 years. By GDS leaving bowerman like that you could argue that she now believes others are doping on the team maybe her as well. Thats not fair to people who once supported her especially if they are innocent. That's why I think she could have just left quietly. I definitley do believe in bad karma.1652 -
westsouthrunner wrote:
Shaved Fish wrote:
The sport doesn’t need “fans” like you.
You guys know everyone doesn't have to agree on everything. I think her throwing Shelby under the bus was class-LESS. Just because a coach believes in their athlete(Jerry believing in Shelby) doesn't make them a bad person. A coach can and should 100% believe in their training. His training obviously works for those that can stay healthy. On the Oslo live reaction thread theres both people insinuating that Karissa is dirty because she ran somewhat close to Shelby but not Alicia Monson who just ran 14:31. They think if she broke the record it would be clean. That makes no sense. Kinda reminds me of when Coburn basically said anyone faster than me is doping. Was she then considered a doper when she beat everyone at the world championships? Where does it stop. Monson is coached by Ritz who was coached for some time by Salazar( a doping coach lol) should we start saying Ritz has no integrity due to association? It's ridiculous. and if all those associations were the case almost no one has integrity
I am a huge fan and supporter of the sport and will continue to enjoy it for years to come. Sad that Shelby went down for doping. I will never truly know if she did it and it doesn't matter because she is banned or 4 years. By GDS leaving bowerman like that you could argue that she now believes others are doping on the team maybe her as well. Thats not fair to people who once supported her especially if they are innocent. That's why I think she could have just left quietly. I definitley do believe in bad karma.
Huge OAC fan btw they are all great runners
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Other people on Bowerman are doping. Jager was listed as "likely doping" on the leaked USADA report.
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westsouthrunner wrote:
Shaved Fish wrote:
The sport doesn’t need “fans” like you.
You guys know everyone doesn't have to agree on everything. I think her throwing Shelby under the bus was class-LESS. Just because a coach believes in their athlete(Jerry believing in Shelby) doesn't make them a bad person. A coach can and should 100% believe in their training. His training obviously works for those that can stay healthy. On the Oslo live reaction thread theres both people insinuating that Karissa is dirty because she ran somewhat close to Shelby but not Alicia Monson who just ran 14:31. They think if she broke the record it would be clean. That makes no sense. Kinda reminds me of when Coburn basically said anyone faster than me is doping. Was she then considered a doper when she beat everyone at the world championships? Where does it stop. Monson is coached by Ritz who was coached for some time by Salazar( a doping coach lol) should we start saying Ritz has no integrity due to association? It's ridiculous. and if all those associations were the case almost no one has integrity
I am a huge fan and supporter of the sport and will continue to enjoy it for years to come. Sad that Shelby went down for doping. I will never truly know if she did it and it doesn't matter because she is banned or 4 years. By GDS leaving bowerman like that you could argue that she now believes others are doping on the team maybe her as well. Thats not fair to people who once supported her especially if they are innocent. That's why I think she could have just left quietly. I definitley do believe in bad karma.
I understand that we don’t have to believe that all of BTC is guilty just because they have a guilty athlete. Just like we don’t have to believe that Ritz picked up something that he shares with his athletes that he picked up from his years with Alberto.
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westsouthrunner wrote:
I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
Its so f!cked up to think that this is deserved.
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With GDS out with an injury and Tsegey only running the 5,000, an opportunity arises for an American woman to a World medal in the 1500.
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westsouthrunner wrote:
You guys know everyone doesn't have to agree on everything. I think her throwing Shelby under the bus was class-LESS. Just because a coach believes in their athlete(Jerry believing in Shelby) doesn't make them a bad person. A coach can and should 100% believe in their training. His training obviously works for those that can stay healthy. On the Oslo live reaction thread theres both people insinuating that Karissa is dirty because she ran somewhat close to Shelby but not Alicia Monson who just ran 14:31. They think if she broke the record it would be clean. That makes no sense. Kinda reminds me of when Coburn basically said anyone faster than me is doping. Was she then considered a doper when she beat everyone at the world championships? Where does it stop. Monson is coached by Ritz who was coached for some time by Salazar( a doping coach lol) should we start saying Ritz has no integrity due to association? It's ridiculous. and if all those associations were the case almost no one has integrity
I am a huge fan and supporter of the sport and will continue to enjoy it for years to come. Sad that Shelby went down for doping. I will never truly know if she did it and it doesn't matter because she is banned or 4 years. By GDS leaving bowerman like that you could argue that she now believes others are doping on the team maybe her as well. Thats not fair to people who once supported her especially if they are innocent. That's why I think she could have just left quietly. I definitley do believe in bad karma.
People are wild. All the time on these boards people complain that athletes aren't transparent enough, then when an athlete is transparent on a very touchy subject and actually takes questions from the media you get people saying they deserve to get a season ending bone injury lmao.
Besides, GDS couldn't have left quietly. She has a very high profile, record setting indoor season (2 national records, one North American record) and placed 4th at world indoors; she walks from the team 2 weeks after world indoors and doesn't say anything then people (both on here and in the wider community) are going to assume the worst about why she left. It would reflect badly on BTC anyway, but also make her look more suspicious too.
But sure, she didn't lie to protect BTC and a banned athlete. Guess she deserves bad karma.
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LarsL11 wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
Its so f!cked up to think that this is deserved.
I didn't say she deserved it. I just believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you sometimes. I don't wish injury on anyone. The more sub 3:57 at the world championships the more exciting the race is to me.
For example bad karma could be like people saying Cade Flatt is cocky for thinking hes the best 800 runner ever then he somehow gets beat by another highschooler. Or in this case it could be seen as throwing your former coach/teammates under the bus then getting injured. Probably not related but I am allowed to believe its bad karma. Doesn't mean its deserved or even related.
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westsouthrunner wrote:
LarsL11 wrote:
Its so f!cked up to think that this is deserved.
I didn't say she deserved it. I just believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you sometimes.
So you are saying she deserves it. Interesting to see what the universe gives to you after putting this out there.
Mafia tendencies. Omerta. "You better shut your mouth when you leave our club!"
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Everyone loves Ritz wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
You guys know everyone doesn't have to agree on everything. I think her throwing Shelby under the bus was class-LESS. Just because a coach believes in their athlete(Jerry believing in Shelby) doesn't make them a bad person. A coach can and should 100% believe in their training. His training obviously works for those that can stay healthy. On the Oslo live reaction thread theres both people insinuating that Karissa is dirty because she ran somewhat close to Shelby but not Alicia Monson who just ran 14:31. They think if she broke the record it would be clean. That makes no sense. Kinda reminds me of when Coburn basically said anyone faster than me is doping. Was she then considered a doper when she beat everyone at the world championships? Where does it stop. Monson is coached by Ritz who was coached for some time by Salazar( a doping coach lol) should we start saying Ritz has no integrity due to association? It's ridiculous. and if all those associations were the case almost no one has integrity
I am a huge fan and supporter of the sport and will continue to enjoy it for years to come. Sad that Shelby went down for doping. I will never truly know if she did it and it doesn't matter because she is banned or 4 years. By GDS leaving bowerman like that you could argue that she now believes others are doping on the team maybe her as well. Thats not fair to people who once supported her especially if they are innocent. That's why I think she could have just left quietly. I definitley do believe in bad karma.
I understand that we don’t have to believe that all of BTC is guilty just because they have a guilty athlete. Just like we don’t have to believe that Ritz picked up something that he shares with his athletes that he picked up from his years with Alberto.
But we are allowed to believe there is a connection as well.Definitely fair enough. I just think it turns into a wild goose chase and eventually I would become skeptical/unappreciative of performances thinking that way
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westsouthrunner wrote:
I didn't say she deserved it. I just believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you sometimes. I don't wish injury on anyone. The more sub 3:57 at the world championships the more exciting the race is to me.
For example bad karma could be like people saying Cade Flatt is cocky for thinking hes the best 800 runner ever then he somehow gets beat by another highschooler. Or in this case it could be seen as throwing your former coach/teammates under the bus then getting injured. Probably not related but I am allowed to believe its bad karma. Doesn't mean its deserved or even related.
How many ways can you say she deserves it while still insisting you don't think she deserves it.
Clown show stuff.
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LarsL11 wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
I didn't say she deserved it. I just believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you sometimes.
So you are saying she deserves it. Interesting to see what the universe gives to you after putting this out there.
Mafia tendencies. Omerta. "You better shut your mouth when you leave our club!"
Shes allowed to say whatever she wants but If I was another girl on the team and putting the hard work in like she was then this is a slap in the face.
So my wife says it does sound like I believe she deserves this lol. What I actually believe is she could have left and did her own thing quietly. I guess I don't care too much if thats what it sounds like cause thats not what I meant. Why should Jerry have to tell her about Shelby. Especially when it has become a legal matter. It isn't her business...Unless you believe a whole clubs integrity is closely linked to every individual athlete. Morally I do believe in negative energy coming back to you.signing off.....until tomorrow lol
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Another perspective wrote:
westsouthrunner wrote:
I didn't say she deserved it. I just believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you sometimes. I don't wish injury on anyone. The more sub 3:57 at the world championships the more exciting the race is to me.
For example bad karma could be like people saying Cade Flatt is cocky for thinking hes the best 800 runner ever then he somehow gets beat by another highschooler. Or in this case it could be seen as throwing your former coach/teammates under the bus then getting injured. Probably not related but I am allowed to believe its bad karma. Doesn't mean its deserved or even related.
How many ways can you say she deserves it while still insisting you don't think she deserves it.
Clown show stuff.
lol oh well
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westsouthrunner wrote:
LarsL11 wrote:
So you are saying she deserves it. Interesting to see what the universe gives to you after putting this out there.
Mafia tendencies. Omerta. "You better shut your mouth when you leave our club!"
Morally I do believe in negative energy coming back to you.
Then you are in deep sh!t for thinking it is deserved to become injured because you chose to be honest and speak up about why you leave a club.
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westsouthrunner wrote:
I don't wish injury on anyone...as I sit here with a healing broken kneecap but I told my wife bad karma was going to come her way for leaving bowerman and blaming it on shelby.
Getting a stress fracture like that isn't too common right?
How does this post have 6 thumbs up as of this moment?
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