Tim Cheruiyot 6th Among Massive Upsets at Kenyan Athletics Championships

Tim ran a great 1420.

Err no. He needs to go back and plant some potatoes.

Tim is done.

Did Manangoi and Kiprop enter these trials?

I wouldn't go that far, but he looked awful closing that out. Kipsang continuing his progress and will be in the conversation for gold this year

Coevett, it's clear you don't know anything about the kenyan system.

National Championships were used as direct selection for African Championships, and at the same time as Club Championships. The team of Police (where there is Timothy) every year has to fight with Defense for winning the Championships, and is a must for the best to run Nationals. However, the top athletes, already winners of medals in Olympics, WCh and Commonwealth Games, are not interested to represent Kenya in African Ch., and prefer to give this opportunity for young athletes, who can start their international career with the singlet of their Country.

Timothy is not still in shape, but yesterday had the possibility to qualify without any problem, if interested. It's evident he didn't try any final sprint, "floating" the last 60 meters and looking at the other athletes overtaking him, totally relaxed.

You seems to have something personal with Timothy Cheruiyot, using arrogant comments and ironic nicknames that, punctually, make you to appear not very clever after the results of the track.

You have a strange idea about the word "respect". Nobody came in LR for making irony with your friend Kyle Langford, your new "phenomen" because of a silver medal in CG, who disappeared after your endorsment : is not that you bring bad luck to your favourite athletes ?

Kinda heartwarming given this context.

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Thanks for the additional context, Renato. Yes to me it looked like Tim either didn’t want to kick or was incapable of it. Hoping the hamstring is OK and this was him getting a good workout in before ceding to Kipsang, Taki et al who were hungry to rep Kenya. Taki and Kipsang looked very good. Kenyan WC Trials will be loaded.

Hmmm...you sound very different in this comment Canova.

Kyle Langford came third in the world U18 championships in 2013 after less than two years of training, cheated out of gold by the convicted Kenyan doper Kipketer, and a likely doping Ukrainian.

He then was cheated out of a historic bronze medal at the London World Championships by the convicted Kenyan doper Bett.

He then won silver in the Commonwealth Games, losing to a, you know, Kenyan showing remarkable form.

If you want to portray Kenyan 800m running of being free of cheats, as is your wont, maybe best to avoid any talk of Kyle Langford and his career.

So I really don't know why you mock me for believing that Langford had a stack of talent. I don't know why he hasn't lived up to his promise. As one of the world's greatest coaches, I'm sure you are in a better position to speculate.

I can only guess his commitment to the sport might have been lacking. He seemed to pursue a 'bad boy' persona after his success, and maybe took his talent for granted.

Or maybe he just got demotivated competing against cheating Kenyans?

Did my 'curse' strike Jakob, btw, who I have been championing since he was 14?

Timothy Cheruiyot NEVER had to face any suspicion about doping. He has a long career, with big continuity : he ran under 3'30" for the first time in 2017, and after that year was able running under 3'29" in every further year (3'28"41 in 2018, 3'28"77 in 2019, 3'28"45 in 2020, 3'28"28 in 2021). In his career, he ran 9 times under 3'30", with average in his best 10 races of 3'29"118. He ran his first WCh in 2015, when was preferred to Robert Biwott (who beated him in Trials) because accepted to pace Asbel Kiprop in the final : after that year, he won silver in WCh 2017, Gold in WCh 2019, silver in OG 2021, always leading from the beginning of the race, giving the opportunity to the other athletes to improve their PB.

Timothy is a very humble person, not looking at socials (like for example Asbel Kiprop), and preserving his mentality of "farmer" that you don't understand, trying to be ironic in stupid way when you call him "Tim potato". I don't think that planting potatoes is something less that honorable for using his own time when not in training, probably better of the time spent by some young british talent, who wasted it (like Langford, who "seemed to pursue a "bad boy" persona after his success, according to your explanation for his desappearance as top level athlete) or preferred to use cocain for personal fun.

What I say, is that you have two different ways of evaluation for British and Kenyan runners, without knowing anything about their personal life and their personal problems, and specifically continue to treat Timothy like an athlete who never won something of important, who never showed to be a world class runner, and who always was suspected of doping only because is strong and is kenyan.

The fact that Jakob can be stronger than him, and can beat him also this year in WCh, doesn't mean Timothy doesn't reserve respect for all what did in the past, and, believe me or not, what he can continue to do in the future.

Typical coevett, you write a whole paragraph to destroy his arguments and expose his lack of knowledge but he will not give any answer to that and instead will attack you on the small joke part at the end of your post.

I can confirm that no one I have met in Kenya has anything negative to say about Tim C. The same could be said about Rhonex Kipruto, who people say has remained humble and modest. Unfortunately, a guy like Victor K., recent winner in the Eldoret marathon, does not garner universal approval, as confirmed by his quasi permanent jumping around different management groups. I wish him well (Victor K), and hope he settles down. He is presently waiting for the 3.5 million shillings to be cleared by K. authorities. Hopefully, he will invest wisely and not squander that substantial sum of money.

The Marathon in Nairobi, May 8, will offer a 6 million shillings prize money. These sums are rivalling major marathons in classic world locales.

It is classist and maybe even racist behavior from those who demean him w/ the 'Potato Tim' nickname. Not to mention it is insinuating that he is doping (in fact, that's how it arose, thanks to an early Coevett thread).

Eliod and Tim seem to have discovered the recipe for happiness and sustained success over a long period of time. Live simply, work hard, remain grounded.

I haven't used the 'potato Tim' moniker for a long time, and in fact have tried to substitute it with 'gentleman Tim'. Mindweak is the guy who started that. Yes, I agree that Tim is a nice and humble man, but to believe he is 'above suspicion' is near comical given the fact that the other two great Kenyan 1500m runners of the last 15 years, including his training partner and close friend, have been banned for anti-doping offences. It's like Coe and Ovett both getting busted and believing Crammy was still 'above suspicion'.

I hope Tim is clean, and the fact he dropped Manangoi on social media is a good sign. It's hard not to drop jokes about 'planting potatoes' forever more when El K posted that infamous 'Tim C skips Bislett to plant potatoes' just a week or two after Kiprop's bust for EPO.

Coevett, I never can accept the idea of "guilty per association". Asbel Kiprop and Timothy didn't have anything in common : not the coach, not the character, not the training.

Of course, when both of them (or 3, including Elijah Manangoi who, always if coached by the same coach of Timothy, has a very different character) are selected for representing Kenya in some international competition, during the final National training camp (usually lasting 3-4 weeks), they have some training together, like can happen in every Country using the system of final training camps for the selected athletes.

It's a little bit similar for what happens to me when I'm in Iten : my group becomes bigger every day, including athletes that are not coached by myself when at home (this particularly with European marathon runners : sometimes in the group there are together Sondre Moen from Norway, Julien Wanders and Tadesse Abraham from Switzerland, Morhad Amdouni from France, Amanal Petros and Philipp Pflieger from Germany, the Indian record holder of HM, Emile Cairess from UK....) but this doesn't mean they must have the same behavior and have to face the same problems : training apart, everybody is responsible for his behavior living in different places, in Kenya too.

And you continue to make confusion between athletes banned FOR DOPING, and athletes banned for WHEREABOUTS. Alfred Kipketer is the example of the second situation, why Kipyegon Bett the example of the first, and they are not considered in the same way by the other athletes, who know very well the individual situations.

^ All I did on that thread was to state a fact: Tim chose to return to his farm to plant potatoes rather than run the mile at Bislett. I've always been open about my feelings about non-metric distances. It's clear from my OP on the thread that my intention was to diminish and dismiss the mile, not to demean Tim. I even included a hashtag #getridofthemile with my post.

Daktari,

Please ignore Coevette. He is a cretin!