How often do you have poor sleep ?

After about 10 months into the pandemic, my sleep took a serious turn for the worse. I've had probably 4-5 sleepless nights in the last calendar year. I have been trending at about 6 hours of cruddy sleep with no dreams (or boners) for the past several months. 32 year old male. Run 4-5 times a week and do calisthenics. Reasonable whole foods diet. Not sure what my issue is... Might be the nasty "I'll drink coffee because I'm bored" habit I got into during the pandemic, but even then, we're talking maybe 12 ounces of brewed coffee and never after 12 pm.

Having poor night sleep from time to time isn't likely to carry bad long term effects. If it happens regularly then it's becoming an issue you need to focus on.

Almost never a sleepless night, but almost every night I get sub-par sleep.

top reasons:

1. On phone reading stuff until late

2. Drink too much coffee (have gotten more sensitive as I’ve gotten older)

3. If I skip working out 2 days in a row, makes sleepy noticeably tougher

solutions:

1. Turn off stuff, and book reading after 930

2. No caffeine (sleep quality much higher)

3. Took this kava kava and Kratom thing last night with a thc lozenge. Seemed to work pretty well, but not good to rely on stuff.

Mostly just need to shut down mind

If your a male wait till you get up there in age, I wake up every 2 hours to stand in front of the toilet and try to urinate.

Most nights are poor sleeping then a night of absolute deathlike unconsciousness.

The reason though is after retirement, I tended to take more naps. I have time to! I’m not working anymore so the three or four 15 minute naps, mess me up.

a lot of older folks complain about lack of sleep but we are getting it. In increments.

Until age 61, I almost never had any problem sleeping. Unless I deliberately forced myself to stay up too late or get up too early, I got 7-7.5 hours of actual sleep from about 7.5 hours in bed and felt great.

Two months shy of age 62 my sleeping ability, along with other aspects of my health, went downhill. I still sleep pretty well most nights but it's more like 8.5 hours in bed to get 7.5 hours of sleep. Typically 3-4 days per month I wake up after 2-3 hours and have a very hard time getting back to sleep, and end up with only 3-5 hours of sleep.

Interestingly, I usually feel pretty good physically after a short night. It's my brain that just doesn't work without enough sleep.

Why do you have to try at all if you don’t feel the urge of the pee readily wanting to come out?

Prostate is slightly enlarged and pushing against bladder when lying down. Giving you the feeling you have to go. But the negatives that come with any procedures are not something I want to deal with as long as it doesn't effect my health.

At age 62 I sleep fine. The problem is not getting enough sleep. Too many 5-6 hours of sleep a night. Just need to go to bed earlier.

1-2 times a week. The older I get the harder time I have getting good sleep. I’m 50. Also directly related to stress level at work and home. More stressed I am the less sleep I get.

I'm late 40's and my sleep has been pretty bad the last couple of years. I have no idea why, probably some of it is stress related but even when I'm on vacation it's not all that great. I wake up a few times and can tell that it's not deep sleep. No issues with prostate though.

When I am still awake at midnight I feel like roadrunning: my mind gets slippery and my body ties up in a knot.

The famous runner Gerry Lindgren used to train at 1 am. But then he trained three times a day.

Honestly I think I have poor sleep more often than not. I generally will get 6ish hours of broken sleep a night. It's worse when I'm not running or otherwise exercising regularly.

Sorry for reviving this thread. Couldn't find another thread about sleep.

Had a bad night, slept like 3-4 hours. I don't know how I'll manage the day. What do you do to sleep better? I mean general stuff.

Sounds like time for a urilogist. They fix things like that.

Right, I know when I don't have deep sleep when my eyelids open and I feel tired just waking up...it's like a semi-sleepy state but you're never in the deep REM cycle sleep.

— average: 30%

— night before a race: 60%

— consume caffeine after 5 pm: 80%

— consume 1-2 alcoholic drinks: 50%

— consume > 2 alcoholic drinks: 90%

— read non-running threads on LRC: 99.99%

Sunlight first thing in the morning

Consistent exercise (but not overtraining, that will lead to insomnia. If I went too long or too hard, I typically have trouble sleeping)

Cold and dark bedroom

Stop eating 2-3 hours before bed

No screens 60-90 minutes before bed

Evening walks after dinner

If you must try a supplement, magnesium is great. Melatonin should be avoided unless adjusting to jet lag