How would you structure it?
pbs: 14:38, 8:27
How would you structure it?
pbs: 14:38, 8:27
Run 12 miles every day and don't get distracted.
Doubles are the answer. Do a 5-6 mile run every morning. That will help you to reach your goal.
Mon: AM 4 miles easy PM 4 Miles easy
Tue: AM Stamina Workout (tempo or tempo repeats) PM 4 miles easy
Wed: AM 8 miles easy PM 4 miles easy
Thu: AM 8 miles easy PM 4 miles easy
Fri: AM Speed Workout (repeats) PM 4 miles easy
Sat: AM 8 miles easy PM 4 miles easy
Sun: 16 mile easy long run
Lots of 8ish-4ish doubles and a two hour long run
How you do your 80-85 mile weeks depends on what race you're training for. I'm currently doing marathon training. Here's a example of a recent 86 mile week for me, all singles.
Sun- 10 miles, easy
Mon- 10 mi easy
Tues- 10 mi, 8 x 100m strides
Wed- 10 mi, easy
Thurs- 12 miles, 6 x 1 mi at 10K pace (400m jog rest)
Fri- 10 mi easy
Sat- 24 miles at 80-85% of goal marathon pace
Weekend runs done late morning. M-F runs done at 5:30, before work.
Agree that it very much depends on what you're training for. The shorter your event(s) the more doubles you'll want to do. When getting to marathons, many people would be hitting 80-85 mile weeks in all singles.
Based on the PRs you listed I'll assume you're training for track events 5k and below, in which case I'll agree with the others and say take a 60-65ish mile week and add a lot of 4-5 mile doubles to it.
Mon - 10mi normal run
Tue - moderate workout 12mi-14mi usually longer tempos eg. 3x3mi at 80-85% etc
Wed - 10mi easy
Thursday - 12mi normal run (can split if you want 4-8 or do it all in one go)
Friday - hard workout intervals 6-8xmi, 10-14x1k, 20-25x400m, etc roughly 14mi day
Saturday - 10 easy
Sunday - 14-20mi long run. Slightly faster than normal runs but if still sore from Friday, take it easier side of normal pace.
Can also swap Tuesday with monday and friday with thursday and do a long run on saturday and easy run sunday. 2 days for recovery before next workout is usually sufficient
This is obviously just my preference, but I’ll share.
I have liked structuring my 80-85 mile weeks like so:
M: 11
T: 12 with a more aerobic workout (tempo, progression, long repeats, etc), 5 mile double
W: 13
Th: 9
F: 11 with a speedier workout (hills, shorter repeats, etc), and 5
S: 18
Su: off
Thats 84. Give or take a mile or two here and there based on workouts, feel, etc. But I generally stick to this pattern during my base phase, which is the only time I’m running 80-85. I guess some things may need to be tweaked if you want to run 80-85 during a racing season. I don’t personally have experience with that.
Put more generally, this is the structure I follow for 80-85 during my base phase:
M: longer easy run
T: long workout and double
W: mid-week long run, usually still easy pace, sometimes pick it up a little
Th: shorter easy run
F: speedier workout and double
S: long run, usually either progressive or steady at a faster pace than usual easy run, sometimes just easy
Su: off
I know some people don’t like/disapprove of off days for various reasons, but I really like having one every week.
I try to keep the main sessions 24h apart if I can and do the doubles in between. Sometimes this doesn’t work out and it’s not the end of the world, but I would prefer not to do a workout Friday afternoon and then a long run Saturday morning. But I have before and it’s okay as long as you go by feel.
I do strides, usually 4-6x100-150, most days. Usually not after long runs.
M - 40 miles
S - 42 miles.
Never down that type of mileage, but I’d say it’s a good idea to check out an old thread with malmo titled “malmo what are the best ways to structure 100 and 110 mile weeks” idk if it’s exactly that but you’ll find it
Will hit 86 miles this week. marathon training although hoping for some PRs across the board. When at 90-95 one or two of those GA days becomes an 8/6 double.
m - 10 recovery (from Sunday workout)
t - 8 ga
w - 23 as 18 moderate and 5 @ GMP
th - 10 recovery
fr - 10 ga
sa - 15 w/ 12x400 on/200 off in middle
su - 10 recovery
Total - 86
The guy is 3k/5k guy and you are giving him marathon training.
This is the week I'm in right now. Fairly standard, though some weeks I will do a LR with threshold work, or if I had more of a steady-pace LR like this week, I would also have a light tuesday fartlek session. However, I ended last week with two back-to-back hard efforts on saturday and sunday, so wanted to give my legs plenty of time to rebound.
Mon 3/21 - 5
Tues 3/22 - AM: 6 PM: 4
Weds 3/23 - 10
Thurs 3/24 - AM: 9 PM: 3.5 (I did do a light fartlek on Thursday but nothing too significant, 15x1/1 at marathon pace on a very hilly route. Definitely wouldn't count it as a workout)
Fri 3/25 - AM: 3mi warm up, 6x mile @ 5:24/mi w/ 60s jog, 3 mi cooldown for 12.5 total PM: 2 mi wu, 6x4 mins @ 5:34/mi w/ 60s jog, cool down to 8 miles. 20.5 total for the day
Sat 3/26 - 8, strides
Sun 3/27 - 19 mile LR with 4x3 miles at 6:45 pace (pacing my girlfriend who is trying to break 3)
85 total. Like I said, on a typical week with a LR like this I would often do a light tuesday session
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Unit wrote:
How would you structure it?
pbs: 14:38, 8:27
I am assume you work or go to college.
I also assume you are right now in 8:30/14:35 shape
Mo 7 / 4
Tu 4 / short track stuff (reps of 200 - 1000 m), e.g.: 12 x 400 at 70 - 68ish, 1' jog rest
We 11
Th 7 / 4 + strides or short hills (4 - 10 x 80 m)
Fr 4 / short to medium long tempo, e.g.: 4 miles at 5:20 - 5:10ish
Sat 7 / 4
Sun "long run", e.g.: 12 - 14 miles at sub 6 pace.
Stay flexible and do not sweat too much details.
Pikachu
This is what I did while training for XC in college to hit 80 miles/week. Shaved a minute off my 8k PR
M - 10 miles - workout day
T - 10 miles recovery
W - 10 miles - workout day
Th - 10 miles AM, 4 miles PM. Both recovery pase
F - 10 miles easy. Maybe throw in some pick ups and strides
Sat - 16 mile long run
Sunday - 10 miles as you see fit - get your body ready for the next week
I believe singles are more effective than doubles, and that 10 miles is a great distance for a training run. Both time and effort wise it is an appropriate distance. Very manageable.
11 - 14 per day. One rest day 0-6 miles. One long day 16 - 20.
12, 12, 14, 12, 5, 11, 18 = 84 (for example)
Nice variation, throw in a zero and make the long run 20.
free body diagrams wrote:
The guy is 3k/5k guy and you are giving him marathon training.
With your logic, then everyone is giving him marathon training. What dictates marathon training from 3k/5k training? He asked for "80-85mi per week" and that's exactly what everyone here is doing. Did you read 80-85MILES?
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