One of coolest things I have seen in awhile. Always been a Harris fan but respect just shot up a ton. Hopefully he didn't do too much damage and can bounce back soon.
Exactly...Heroic???? I might reserve that for something other than finishing a 400M with a pulled muscle??That is more than a huge stretch, it trivializes the word entirely.Heroic? Is these folks in the Ukraine, NOT leaving and literally fighting to the death...I would think??
Exactly...Heroic???? I might reserve that for something other than finishing a 400M with a pulled muscle??That is more than a huge stretch, it trivializes the word entirely.Heroic? Is these folks in the Ukraine, NOT leaving and literally fighting to the death...I would think??
Agreed. Not heroic. Just a guy doing his job through adverse conditions.
Cowardice is the new courage. Had he not shown up to race and cited "the flipsies" or some other made up mental problem he would receive a standing ovation on national television.
What's "brave" or "heroic" about running through tremendous pain and sacrificing your personal health for your national team? I could do that in my sleep if I wanted to. Wake me up when he fights off a bunch of armed bad guys committing a bank heist or rescues 100 newborn babies from a burning maternity ward.
This should have been one of those rare and beautiful Letsrun threads where everyone agrees to appreciate something truly applause-worthy. It’s frustrating that trolls or people genuinely blockheaded enough (or bitter enough about life) to denigrate the heroism of that second lap have marred this thread.
That had to freaking hurt, kudos to Harris for being tough as nails and valuing his team over his own preservation.
This should have been one of those rare and beautiful Letsrun threads where everyone agrees to appreciate something truly applause-worthy. It’s frustrating that trolls or people genuinely blockheaded enough (or bitter enough about life) to denigrate the heroism of that second lap have marred this thread.
That had to freaking hurt, kudos to Harris for being tough as nails and valuing his team over his own preservation.
One can "appreciate something truly applause-worthy" without finding the act to be "heroic" (a word that is almost always nonsense when applied to sports). Running into a burning house to save people who are trapped inside is heroic. Finishing a race with a pulled muscle is not.
Sports are just entertainment. Aside from some very rare events like Jesse Owens smacking down the idea of Aryan supremacy on Hitler's own turf, things that happen in sports aren't important enough to be heroic.
Not hating on Harris. I'm a fan and sis performance was, as you say, applause-worthy. But using the word "heroic" to describe finishing a race after pulling a muscle is just over the top. If anyone is "denigrating heroism," it's the people who devalue the word by applying it to sports.
This should have been one of those rare and beautiful Letsrun threads where everyone agrees to appreciate something truly applause-worthy. It’s frustrating that trolls or people genuinely blockheaded enough (or bitter enough about life) to denigrate the heroism of that second lap have marred this thread.
That had to freaking hurt, kudos to Harris for being tough as nails and valuing his team over his own preservation.
One can "appreciate something truly applause-worthy" without finding the act to be "heroic" (a word that is almost always nonsense when applied to sports). Running into a burning house to save people who are trapped inside is heroic. Finishing a race with a pulled muscle is not.
Sports are just entertainment. Aside from some very rare events like Jesse Owens smacking down the idea of Aryan supremacy on Hitler's own turf, things that happen in sports aren't important enough to be heroic.
Not hating on Harris. I'm a fan and sis performance was, as you say, applause-worthy. But using the word "heroic" to describe finishing a race after pulling a muscle is just over the top. If anyone is "denigrating heroism," it's the people who devalue the word by applying it to sports.
This is my view as well. There are plenty of people that get injured but still carry on with their duties. In this day and age we have to commend those that tough out a bad situation because most people nowadays quit when things get hard. Being tough though isn't heroic. Those complaining about trolls on this thread derailing it have only Rojo to blame. He's the king troll of LR and he hoped his choice of words would rack up clicks. BTW, I'm a big fan of Harris and really hope he can recover quickly.
Exactly...Heroic???? I might reserve that for something other than finishing a 400M with a pulled muscle??That is more than a huge stretch, it trivializes the word entirely.Heroic? Is these folks in the Ukraine, NOT leaving and literally fighting to the death...I would think??
You are correct - but on the other hand- the context is a sporting event. Should we put a disclaimer on every sports article that states “any attributions of positive qualities of athletes, including perseverance, resilience, courage, unselfishness, intelligence, humility, and being calm u def pressure, should not be considered equal to those same qualities in non-sporting contexts, and in fact, the reader probably should stop reading about trivial things like athletics and go seek serious news on real issues such as the invasion of Ukraine, global warming, and the threat to US democracy”?
Examples:
It was “smart” tactics to win the 800m? Cmon, “smart” is curing cancer or winning the Nobel Prize.
It took “resilience” to come back from years of running injuries? Hah! Real resilience is coming back from having your home wiped out by a hurricane!
Exactly...Heroic???? I might reserve that for something other than finishing a 400M with a pulled muscle??That is more than a huge stretch, it trivializes the word entirely.Heroic? Is these folks in the Ukraine, NOT leaving and literally fighting to the death...I would think??
You are correct - but on the other hand- the context is a sporting event. Should we put a disclaimer on every sports article that states “any attributions of positive qualities of athletes, including perseverance, resilience, courage, unselfishness, intelligence, humility, and being calm u def pressure, should not be considered equal to those same qualities in non-sporting contexts, and in fact, the reader probably should stop reading about trivial things like athletics and go seek serious news on real issues such as the invasion of Ukraine, global warming, and the threat to US democracy”?
Examples:
It was “smart” tactics to win the 800m? Cmon, “smart” is curing cancer or winning the Nobel Prize.
It took “resilience” to come back from years of running injuries? Hah! Real resilience is coming back from having your home wiped out by a hurricane!
Thread on running turns in to pedantic discussion on the use of the word heroic. I know it is hard to interact with the world when you have autism, but the posters here are insufferable.
Surely we can agree that it was hugely selfless and heroic within a SPORTING context that despite being in all kinds of pain he pushed through to try and keep his teammates in With a chance of going in to contest for medals.
I just don't get these boards sometimes. You'd think a definition of a word, or a what a word means wouldn't have that much affect on people, or at least not enough to distract from the powerful running through injury that Harris showed. It's ok to commend people on pushing through adverse conditions, even if there are those who go through harder ones.
This is the type of person that would tell their children not to complain about having anxiety in school because there are starving children in Africa and they have it worse. Obviously we all know that Harris is not fighting a war, nobody claimed that he was on that level, but to think you need to put other people down to raise them up is a ridiculously antiquated notion that also shows the age/ignorance of the people here.
Anyways, kudos to Harris for running as well as he did in an event outside of his wheelhouse, even if he got injured.
And I hope next time the heroic-word purists gets injured etc. that somebody tells them to suck it up and not see the doctor because there are some people who deserve it more.