I am making a bet with large stakes with some friends that I could maintain 5:30 pace for a full marathon. I can run close to 14:30 for a 5K and the longest run I have ever done is 17 miles close to 6:00 flat, which was quite relaxed. Do I have a shot at making bank or have I thrown away money?
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I think the marathon is going to surprise you in a rough way. I ran 3:45 for 1500m, 14:17 for 5000m, 29:05 for 10,000m. I figured I'd be able to run 2:15 I ran 2:23. Craig Mottram ran 3:31 for 1500m, 12:58 for 5000m, and I think 27:38 for 10,000m and could only manage a 2:28 marathon. Some people are suited for the marathon and some just are not.
What's the equivalent? Probably 2:22 or 2:23. But that's the ideal and there's a chance they may bonk and not crack 230.
Something like that. Maybe a bit faster with the super shoes. But yeah there is some chance they hit mile 20 and die.. for a guy who has never run a marathon 2:24 is probably a decent betting line given all the variables (what if it is a bad weather day, injured during build up,...)
14:40s gives someone a shot at sub-2:19. Some can do it a little slower. Can you run a 2:24 -- sure but can you do it now who knows. 17 @ 6-flat feeling however it felt is still 9 miles short & 30s/mile slow. You can definitely run 2:24. No idea if it comes easy or not for you.
1430 definitely indicates the talent to likely be able to run 2:24 or significantly faster.
But how long do you have to train for this? If you have to do this without any marathon specific training, it could be really tough. There is a good chance the wheels fall off and you fail, you won't really see the cracks forming until the 21 or 22 mile mark.
If you have 6 months to train, then you've got a very solid chance of winning the bet fairly easily.
Yes this is totaly possible - I ran those times myself last year. As other posters have said though, marathon training is a very different game to 5k training. You'll probably need several months of training including some fast/hard long runs to adjust to the pounding to hold 5.30s for 26.2. Once you get going on the training you'll get a better feel of how your body is adapting and if 2.24 is on the cards.
Also, will this be a first marathon? What's your half marathon PR? This will give a good indicator of what's possible for you.
My 5000 pr was 15:11 at the time I set my marathon pr of 2:18:27. I suggest that you focus on long runs, long intervals (2km/3km), good mileage (90-100mpw) and some long uphill runs if you have access to them. Good luck to you
I think the marathon is going to surprise you in a rough way. I ran 3:45 for 1500m, 14:17 for 5000m, 29:05 for 10,000m. I figured I'd be able to run 2:15 I ran 2:23. Craig Mottram ran 3:31 for 1500m, 12:58 for 5000m, and I think 27:38 for 10,000m and could only manage a 2:28 marathon. Some people are suited for the marathon and some just are not.
Your Mottram reference is a little misleading. He stopped competing seriously in 2013 and his marathon was run in 2016. At the point in his running career, it’s unlikely he pushed himself.
Objectively, 14:30 is a much superior performance than 2:24, but it doesn't mean you can do it. 30 women have run under 14:30 and 232 have run under 2:24.
Some of the amateur bowerman guys have pretty slow 5k times relative to their marathon pb (at CIM).
Patrick Reaves has ran 2:17 and Peter Bromka has ran 2:19, neither of them has run sub 15.
Depends. Did you (or these guys) run their 5km PRs on the track in non-super spikes....but then run the road marathon in Supershoes?
The shoes alone in a road marathon (if compared to an old track 5km PR in non-super shoes) are going to give one an edge probably by 2-3 minutes in a marathon at least.
Back in my day I ran my 5km PR (14:29) on an indoor track in old crappy spikes about 8 months after I ran a 2:21 in college (in old regular EVA foam shoes with no carbon plates). Eventually got down to 2:16 high at Hansons and the 5km PR stayed the same. I doubt I could've gone much under 14:20 (if ever), but the focus has to shift to more long Tempo efforts (5 x 2-miles, 3 x 3 miles etc) and 20-22-mile long runs. 100mpw + also helped with the marathon.
Lots of guys could run sub 14:30 for 5km in college at the DI level. Not as many will be able to translate that to a sub 2:18 necessarily...but a 2:24 is very possible and quite a bit "easier".
I am making a bet with large stakes with some friends that I could maintain 5:30 pace for a full marathon. I can run close to 14:30 for a 5K and the longest run I have ever done is 17 miles close to 6:00 flat, which was quite relaxed. Do I have a shot at making bank or have I thrown away money?
Your friends are idiots if they think 2:24 is more impressive than 14:30, regardless of whether they win the bet.
I am making a bet with large stakes with some friends that I could maintain 5:30 pace for a full marathon. I can run close to 14:30 for a 5K and the longest run I have ever done is 17 miles close to 6:00 flat, which was quite relaxed. Do I have a shot at making bank or have I thrown away money?
Your friends are idiots if they think 2:24 is more impressive than 14:30, regardless of whether they win the bet.
Exactly. Ask Sara Hall or Keira D'Amato or Jordan Hasay if they can run 14:30 for 5000m.