Dragonfly spikes.. WOW!

SanDiegorunner wrote:

First time getting a pair and let me tell you it was worth the wait! Picked up a pair at Eastbay and didn’t think twice when I saw my size. I broke them in today during one of my sets. The amount of energy returned is insane! Way to go Nike. Made running a 2:25 800m feel easy and a 48 second 300m wasn’t taxing at all!

So, they are running itself, 800m @02:00 easy, yeah? 😎

How is this one of the top threads with only 2 posts??

100%. I have ran something like 22 sub-4:20 miles with a PR of 4:10, and by that i am saying i know what those paces are supposed to feel like very well, and the dragonflys are crazy. To any highschoolers/college athletes out there: DO NOT TRAIN IN THEM, SAVE THEM FOR RACES. your achilles will thank me later.

daewoolanos wrote:

100%. I have ran something like 22 sub-4:20 miles with a PR of 4:10, and by that i am saying i know what those paces are supposed to feel like very well, and the dragonflys are crazy. To any highschoolers/college athletes out there: DO NOT TRAIN IN THEM, SAVE THEM FOR RACES. your achilles will thank me later.

Why do you say NOT to train in them?

I train in them and the biggest difference I find is they do not torch my legs and achilles.

In my opinion if you don't train in them you'll feel so much better/ faster when you finally lace them up to race.

for storage , put them in n air tight bag, and keep them in fridge .

maternal identifier wrote:

daewoolanos wrote:

100%. I have ran something like 22 sub-4:20 miles with a PR of 4:10, and by that i am saying i know what those paces are supposed to feel like very well, and the dragonflys are crazy. To any highschoolers/college athletes out there: DO NOT TRAIN IN THEM, SAVE THEM FOR RACES. your achilles will thank me later.

Why do you say NOT to train in them?

I train in them and the biggest difference I find is they do not torch my legs and achilles.

Same here, they were a game changer, kept my legs feeling good

Are you saying don’t train in them at all or in some workouts? How are you suppose to know if they work for you in key races if you don’t train in them at all?

SomeAverageCoach wrote:

Are you saying don’t train in them at all or in some workouts? How are you suppose to know if they work for you in key races if you don’t train in them at all?

It's might be a fast shoe, but it's just a shoe. If they fit OK, how are they not going to work? It's not like you have to adjust to them any more than any other spike, right?

Just like any other shoe make and brand you might want to try them out first before going all in on a pair of shoes that might not work for you specifically. The alphaflys for example, it has a lot of potential might help you PR, but definitely not something you should just take out of the box, lace up, and head straight to the starting line. That’s just asinine.

SomeAverageCoach wrote:

Just like any other shoe make and brand you might want to try them out first before going all in on a pair of shoes that might not work for you specifically. The alphaflys for example, it has a lot of potential might help you PR, but definitely not something you should just take out of the box, lace up, and head straight to the starting line. That’s just asinine.

Worked for Jake Riley. Tried on Alphaflies for the first time the day before the Olympic marathon trials. Got third place the next day.

I don't use high stacked shoes with drop so I won't even try the normal road shoes. I am really a barefoot shoe zero drop runner. But I train a lot in spikes (XC style on paths, grass, snow, easy terrain). I just recently bought at pair of slightly used dragonfly 2020 and I agree they feel very responsive. I don't believe I get a lot more in return than normal shoes or barefoot (which I run a lot with), but I will test the feel and speed eventually (have not been able to check on track). Since I cannot use those road shoes I might add a thin rubber sole to the dragonfly to make them road flats (keeping the holes for the spikes I can use them with spikes or blanks when in flats) I saw someone do that to make themselves treadmill flats.

These shoes are not carbon, but they have a responsive zoomx under the front midfoot and a pebax plate going all the way including the outer spike plate and to the heel. This combo kindof feels springy and easy to roll the foot over or kinfo just land, support and spring back again.

I was thinking the same to save them for races. The energy from the dragonfly is insane, i enjoy the next % 2 as well but it doesn’t compare to the spikes. How long do they normally last for just racing? I thought about picking up two pairs but there’s really no point. It’ll just be better to just have one for racing.

I have an old-ish pair (50 miles) for training and a 10 mile pair for racing. The 50 mile ones still feel responsive, but the 10 mile feels like a spring

the shoes provide 5+ seconds per mile