Nick symmonds maybe the first legit sub 5:00 mile with 500lb deadlift

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

The track Michael Miraglia used is a 400yd track, not 400m. Yet it still is an impressive feat, the barrier has not been broken. People may think Ryan Hall is closer, but he uses straps, which can give a 2" height start advantage.

https://youtu.be/9QYCPmDYhVQ

Sorry, this can’t be a big feat because even a guy not qualified to be a sub elite like myself had done this.

otter wrote:

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

The track Michael Miraglia used is a 400yd track, not 400m. Yet it still is an impressive feat, the barrier has not been broken. People may think Ryan Hall is closer, but he uses straps, which can give a 2" height start advantage.

https://youtu.be/9QYCPmDYhVQ

Sorry, this can’t be a big feat because even a guy not qualified to be a sub elite like myself had done this.

Your proof?

Just watched a few seconds of the video.

I did not do this on the same day. But I don’t think it would have been difficult.

I was 44 and worked construction at the time. I never lift outside of work. I was with my track guys and the throwers and one sprinter had what they called the 500 club. I did exactly 500 and no more which I’ll admit was hard but I didn’t feel any hard effects of it after.

I was coaching indoor track and jumped in a mini meet around the same time at BU and ran 4:55. The prior week I had run a 9:48 3000. Not bragging about my times, but I was working physically every day and 44 so I was happy with it.

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

otter wrote:

Sorry, this can’t be a big feat because even a guy not qualified to be a sub elite like myself had done this.

Your proof?

This was like 6 years ago. I didn’t think it was a big deal and did not even put the two events together until reading your post.

My point was that if i could do this as an old untalented man then there must be numerous people that can do it.

Why do we treat this guy like he is super human. So what if he dead lifts and runs a slow 100m.

Let this man go and leave him alone. If you want to follow someone, how about Gabe Jennings. He is way more exciting than some ham and egger.

otter wrote:

Just watched a few seconds of the video.

I did not do this on the same day. But I don’t think it would have been difficult.

I was 44 and worked construction at the time. I never lift outside of work. I was with my track guys and the throwers and one sprinter had what they called the 500 club. I did exactly 500 and no more which I’ll admit was hard but I didn’t feel any hard effects of it after.

I was coaching indoor track and jumped in a mini meet around the same time at BU and ran 4:55. The prior week I had run a 9:48 3000. Not bragging about my times, but I was working physically every day and 44 so I was happy with it.

You’ve gotta realize that fatigue definitely plays a role. Maxing out a deadlift is extremely anaerobically taxing, and if 500 lbs is your true max, you will usually be pretty close to passing out after one rep. Getting going straight into an all out mile immoderately after hitting a max deadlift is a lot more challenging than it looks on paper.

I’d argue you could draw a comparison of running a 100m sub 11.5 or whatever the equivalent in skill 500 lbs would be straight into a sub 5:00 mile. If you could do that on two separate days, I’d say “congrats, you are an above average high school track kid, and can probably run 400/800 pretty dang fast”. If you did them right together I’d be a lot more impressed.

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critic 100 wrote:

Why do we treat this guy like he is super human. So what if he dead lifts and runs a slow 100m.

Let this man go and leave him alone. If you want to follow someone, how about Gabe Jennings. He is way more exciting than some ham and egger.

You're right. What he's doing is a niche activity, essentially. No one else really even attempts this. It is not extremely difficult to either run a sub 5 mile and likewise for deadlifting 500 pounds. The reason why it's not done often is because the lifters are usually exclusively focused on lifting and the runners focused on running. But if you took the field at ncaa cross and told them they all had a year to do this, a bunch would be able to do it. But next to none could at the moment because they don't need to lift that heavy because they're focused on running.

There's plenty of people who have done this and more who could. More of the kind of activity that cross-fitters and OCR athletes would pursue.

Still impressive feat for an average Joe but less of an impressive feat for an Olympic middle distance runner.

A good sign of overall fitness though.

More people would do this if it didn't involve having to haul 500 lbs worth of weights to a track that you have access to.

This ^

Go to any level NCAA finals, and you could find 10 or so guys who could do this after six months or so. MUCH easier than going to a standard Crossfit gym and having those guys run a sub-5, or what they no doubt have a name for.

lots of guys talking sh*t here with out evidence but there is money on the line. Currently Nick has the 400lb deadlift / 400m time in 55 seconds. He will pay you $400 if you send him video proof beating that mark.

5mi. & 500 lbs. deadlift will not get a fella an invite on Tonight Show. Maybe sub-3:40 mile will get a fella an invite on Tonight Show. If I knew 5 minute mile & 500 lbs. deadlift were important when I was (15 to 35) years old, I would have done so. Did Jack Paar invite Roger Bannister or Jim Ryun on Tonight Show? If Bannister &/or Ryun were never invited on Tonight Show, certainly 5 minute mile and 500 lbs. deadlift isn't important.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote: But if you took the field at ncaa cross and told them they all had a year to do this, a bunch would be able to do it. But next to none could at the moment because they don't need to lift that heavy because they're focused on running.

most guys at ncaa cross couldn't deadlift 500 pounds if all they did was lift for 3 years.

but still, 500 and sub 5 is not impressive at all.

I think saying it "is not impressive at all" is a little too dismissive. Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't this challenge kind of become "a thing" among cross fitters and fitness influencers? If it has, why hasn't anyone done it yet?

The Indianapolis wrote:

I think saying it "is not impressive at all" is a little too dismissive. Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't this challenge kind of become "a thing" among cross fitters and fitness influencers? If it has, why hasn't anyone done it yet?

If cross fitters want to show the world they are superior athletes to T&F athletes, cross fitters are free to challenge world class shot putters to M.M.A. fights.

The Indianapolis wrote:

I think saying it "is not impressive at all" is a little too dismissive. Maybe I'm wrong, but hasn't this challenge kind of become "a thing" among cross fitters and fitness influencers? If it has, why hasn't anyone done it yet?

Because cross fitters and fitness influencers are roided up. They were unathletic twerps before their 700 steroid cycles and now they are unathletic meatheads. The drugs they are doing make them slow.

My point is this isn't a completely obscure Matt London challenge. I assume a decent number of people have tried it. You'd think someone would do it if it's as easy as some are claiming.

Could be. Maybe Ryan Hall will do it.

I would think a long list of decathletes could do it.