This should be the Quote of the Decade regarding trans athletes participating in elite women's sport

I know what confirmation bias is!

actual feminists should be OUTRAGED.

Instead, our "feminists" are busy trying to convince little boys to turn into little girls.

And women's Olympics just become pointless. Might as well combine both men and women. Eventually that's what it will be like for women anyway.

A common tactic in the rojo playbook: find a woman who is saying the thing you want to say, then boost her statement to communicate and legitimize your own opinion. You're allowed to just say what you think, citing some female swimmer doesn't fundamentally change the terms of the debate. You could quote JK Rowling too, but at the end of the day you own your opinions.

Just another example of the illiberal left forcing their illogical, deranged ideology down our collective throats. Of course it is ridiculous to allow trans women to compete with real female athletes.

Here it goes again wrote:

A common tactic in the rojo playbook: find a woman who is saying the thing you want to say, then boost her statement to communicate and legitimize your own opinion. You're allowed to just say what you think, citing some female swimmer doesn't fundamentally change the terms of the debate. You could quote JK Rowling too, but at the end of the day you own your opinions.

Soo, you attack the messenger, and not the message. Predictable.

The point still stands... Women's athletics is being attacked.

Quote of the decade??!! I can’t even understand what she’s saying it’s so poorly written. Try again.

Here it goes again wrote:

A common tactic in the rojo playbook: find a woman who is saying the thing you want to say, then boost her statement to communicate and legitimize your own opinion. You're allowed to just say what you think, citing some female swimmer doesn't fundamentally change the terms of the debate. You could quote JK Rowling too, but at the end of the day you own your opinions.

Soooo, you're attempting to delegitimize a women's opinion for the benefit of your beef with Rojo's debating tactics?

Why can't Rojo boost her statement if it coincides with his own belief? Would you rather he quote a cis male or trans female? Because Rojo could find those folks to corroborate his position as well.

Also, why don't you address the substance of the cited quote; that if testosterone is performance enhancing, and if women are banned from taking testosterone, then why is it possible for trans females allowed to compete with elevated levels?

The IOC really mucked things up with this new position.

I cannot really attack the message, because it's someone saying what they think should be done. Like,

I generally disagree about the level of moral panic that this issue stirs up. It's like panicking about satanism. If it's such an issue, show me the blood sacrifices and the cult meetings. Should be easy to report the stories of actual people being harmed, rather than pearl clutching about what might happen. It's the magnitude of the moral panic compared to what's actually happening, that's what rubs me the wrong way.

So women want to be treated as equals, but only if it benefits them?

No more gender. You either meet the qualifying standard or you don’t qualify.

Maybe we should go to unique name categories. Everyone can compete and win without having to worry about gender/cheating etc.

Liberalism is a disease and loser SJWs trying to validate their own mundane lives are losers who ironically do more harm than good.

I used to joke that I had the American Record for 800 meters -- for women.

Now lots of guys can do this.

With $$ involved, why wouldn't a 1:52 male just compete as a woman?

Win the OG

what 20 something has a cartoon avatar as his profile pic? wrote:

Rojo, your obsession with trans athletes is gross, if not disturbing. You need help

This is quite the ironic comment considering there is a political slant that is obsessed with the issue.

Here it goes again wrote:

I cannot really attack the message, because it's someone saying what they think should be done. Like,

I generally disagree about the level of moral panic that this issue stirs up. It's like panicking about satanism. If it's such an issue, show me the blood sacrifices and the cult meetings. Should be easy to report the stories of actual people being harmed, rather than pearl clutching about what might happen. It's the magnitude of the moral panic compared to what's actually happening, that's what rubs me the wrong way.

Most of us are pretty sure that there are actual females who have been raising concern. Is that enough? Or, is that not enough panic for you?

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

Liberalism is a disease and loser SJWs trying to validate their own mundane lives are losers who ironically do more harm than good.

Pot meet kettle. Their lives are mundane but your life is so exciting that you are able to post here throughout the day?

same ol, but different wrote:

Most of us are pretty sure that there are actual females who have been raising concern. Is that enough? Or, is that not enough panic for you?

Are you saying the proof Satanism is causing real problems is that the priest is worried about it?

I'm simply saying that an insanely small amount of people who were assigned male at birth are coming in and crashing women's meets. Now and in the future. Full stop.

It's not that we're addressing a problem that's affecting us, it's that we're being sucked into a culture war over an issue that is really only a theoretical threat. Like freaking out over razor blades in candy, which although technically possible...did not actually happen. And there's always this argument that it's better to be vigilant about potential threats rather than be caught by surprise, but Rojo's been going on about razor blades in candy for years now. At some point you gotta wonder if there is something driving this intense interest. And then at some later point you can't doubt it anymore. There's a segment of this country that's having a fit over changing gender roles, and moral panics like this are one way that society sublimates its actual crises. Old white men don't understand the world today, so they make up a story about a hoard of newly-liberated testosterone-fueled females completely changing the face of women's running. This is a mutation of their overall confusion over the changing understanding of gender these days.

And there's a near-zero chance that someone would willingly perform a charade of being a trans person just to win an athletic competition. The casual way this doomsday scenario is tossed around...it just reveals to me how little most people here have considered the actual downsides of living life as a trans person. The scenario of faking being transgender to win a meet is like me dressing as a monkey so I could go get free bananas from the zoo...the victory is 100% not worth the lifestyle you have to endure.

Now your post actually makes sense. Some of this may also be driven by insecure men who want to be the white knight saving the damsel in distress. Sexism is ubiquitous and comes well camouflaged.

TypicalLRPoster wrote:

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

Liberalism is a disease and loser SJWs trying to validate their own mundane lives are losers who ironically do more harm than good.

Pot meet kettle. Their lives are mundane but your life is so exciting that you are able to post here throughout the day?

Yep. I see how people in general live and their lives are mundane AF. There's nothing wrong with that though, if they mind their own business. The problem that's common is they don't mind their own business because their lives are too mundane.