Jordan Hasay paces a blind runner

I wonder how she did it. does the lady hold jordan in some way, or run on some kind of leash. or jordan has to talk the whole time. That's an interesting feat. Amazing.

This was top notch. Very cool.

Thought it was much nicer and better for the sport than running 6 majors in 6 weeks like Shalane Flanagan. All ego.

jesse1509 wrote:

Thought it was much nicer and better for the sport than running 6 majors in 6 weeks like Shalane Flanagan. All ego.

Bit sad that you only posted this so you could attack someone else.

Sorry you're like this.

Tiny bubbles wrote:

I wonder how she did it. does the lady hold jordan in some way, or run on some kind of leash. or jordan has to talk the whole time. That's an interesting feat. Amazing.

a tether and clear, concise commands.

it takes a bit of practice for the runner and guide to be comfortable with each other.

thoughts and prayers wrote:

Tiny bubbles wrote:

I wonder how she did it. does the lady hold jordan in some way, or run on some kind of leash. or jordan has to talk the whole time. That's an interesting feat. Amazing.

a tether and clear, concise commands.

it takes a bit of practice for the runner and guide to be comfortable with each other.

This.

You typically use a short piece of rope, a sock, or some such so that the visually impaired athlete and the guide are loosely connected but not completely locked together. The guide needs to call out turns, obstacles, changes in road surface and such so that the visually impaired athlete can anticipate changes in rhythm.

Most times there is a small cord that the racer and the guide each hold onto but the guide still has to talk the racer through it like if they are coming up to a turn or if there is something in the road.

trollism wrote:

jesse1509 wrote:

Thought it was much nicer and better for the sport than running 6 majors in 6 weeks like Shalane Flanagan. All ego.

Bit sad that you only posted this so you could attack someone else.

Sorry you're like this.

Bit sad that you only posted this so you could attack someone else.

Sorry you're like this.

Citizen Runner wrote:You typically use a short piece of rope, a sock, or some such so that the visually impaired athlete and the guide are loosely connected but not completely locked together. The guide needs to call out turns, obstacles, changes in road surface and such so that the visually impaired athlete can anticipate changes in rhythm.

I’ve run with two blind runners, both of whom have competed internationally. With one guy, you just maintained elbow contact and also talked a lot, warning of any bumps, curbs, etc. With the other guy, who I think I only ran with once, he preferred a tether. Dolt that I am, at the end of about a ten mile run I neglected to mention a bump and he tripped and went flying.

No way I could have guided either one in a race, they were both way faster than me…

Glad she hasn't gone into hibernation. Yes, Jordan has always been a class act, just hope she can regain her fitness with a better training regiment. I think she should stay in Texas a while and take a break from the crazy libs in Oregon and Texas.

Captain here...I know Lisa (the legally blind runner). She is not blind. She’s legally blind. Jordan had to run right in front of her and Lisa can “see” her or her shape.

vj5vt wrote:Captain here...I know Lisa (the legally blind runner). She is not blind. She’s legally blind. Jordan had to run right in front of her and Lisa can “see” her or her shape.

The guys I've guided both "see" a little bit, I think, meaning they get some vague sense of light, although I don't believe they can distinguish anything at all. In competition, regardless of vision loss all competitors have to wear dark glasses because some of them have some sight, which can confer a significant advantage. I watched one of my buddies race for a medal in Beijing, and one of the guys who finished ahead of him looked suspiciously like he was "vision doping," looking up so he could see below his dark glasses.

I met Antonio Cabral in Lisbon a bunch of years ago and he had some blind runners in his group, including at least one guy who ran ~ 1:10-11 in the Lisbon half that year, which is smoking for a blind athlete. He was telling me a bit about the blind racing scene in Portugal and Spain. Evidently (according to Antonio at the time) the Spanish have some kind of national fund that gives great gobs of money for vision-impaired athletes and gives them a big leg up on their poor cousins in Portugal and elsewhere. No idea to what degree that is true, although I've no reason to disbelieve him, but it made me realize that probably all competitive sports create opportunities for imbalance to be overcome.

Congrats and very selfless of Hasay. Pacing isn't easy because if you become uncomfortable at any moment. You have to put someone else first and continue. This was a very noble gesture by Jordan. Still wishing her the best in her competitive career.

Lisa has been running fast for many years at races in Houston. Wonderful to see her get the chance to have Jordan be her guide. She deserves it. Lisa is 53 and has not slowed much. I crashed out of the racing scene when I hit 47 and admire how well Lisa has held up. 1:38 is a great time for a 50+ female runner.

I was running a midweek club road race once - not super quick but probably about 33:high / 34:low for 10k.

There was a decent size group of us early on and one of the guys was super annoying. The course was over slightly gravelly paths and he kept on describing to his mate what we were about to run on and where we were turning. It was super annoying.

Embarrassed at how long it took me to cotton on that he was guiding a visually impaired runner. Couldn't believe how fast the visually impaired runner was. Guided him on a few warm-ups and warm-downs later on and it was a tough responsibility.

jesse1509 wrote:

Pretty cool thing to do.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVs31YQFkn0/?utm_medium=copy_link

Good stuff. Good person.

Very cool. Has Mary Cain ever done anything like this?

I heard she did it once, but the tether was too long, and when the runner said ‘I can’t see you’, the Cainster took it as body shaming and quit, allowing her athlete to hit a wall….literally.

That's cool! I love to see things like this. Runners helping runners, people helping people.