Hand them the title now? #2 NC State women CRUSH 2021 ACC champs with just 20 points

"Just hand them the title now"??

So you see FSU, UNC, Syr, & ND on par with BYU, Stanford, Colorado, NM, NAU, & Arkansas?

Opinionated guy wrote:

"Just hand them the title now"??

So you see FSU, UNC, Syr, & ND on par with BYU, Stanford, Colorado, NM, NAU, & Arkansas?

Nobody is saying that. They scored 20 points in the ACC. That's the impressive part. Idiot.

my two pennies wrote:

Opinionated guy wrote:

"Just hand them the title now"??

So you see FSU, UNC, Syr, & ND on par with BYU, Stanford, Colorado, NM, NAU, & Arkansas?

Nobody is saying that. They scored 20 points in the ACC. That's the impressive part. Idiot.

If you believe scoring 20 points in a mid tier conference is enough to suspend nationals and "just give them the title now" ......someone is an idiot!

That is impressive. They took 4 out of the top 5, plus 8th. 30 second spread. Only 51 seconds from 1 through 7, so they have a decent shot even if one of the top five has an off day or injury. Plus, this is more indicative of nationals results than a men's conference champs because the distance from conference to nationals does not change at the pathetic 6k they run. However, I'm still convinced that BYU is going to have a much more impressive team performance at nationals than they've shown so far this season, and there are other talented teams out there. Low 20s here for the leaders of NC State suggests they'll get some low sticks at nationals, so they're the team to beat right now.

NC State has really been stashing away the prep talent. I saw that Nevada Moreno and Sydney Masciarelli were listed as DNF's for them. What is the story there? I haven't been following. Have they been running well. Were they saving them for regionals?

NC State may well win, but no, I think we should still hold nationals and see what happens.

Awesome! 30 second spread. Looks like they ran as a pack!

Opinionated guy wrote:

my two pennies wrote:

Nobody is saying that. They scored 20 points in the ACC. That's the impressive part. Idiot.

If you believe scoring 20 points in a mid tier conference is enough to suspend nationals and "just give them the title now" ......someone is an idiot!

Obviously no one is saying they should suspend nationals. But, if a conference with NC State plus teams ranked 10, 13, 16, 21, and then 2 others receiving votes is "mid-tier".....which ones are top tier?

bubbs wrote:

Obviously no one is saying they should suspend nationals.

That is EXACTLY what is being implied with "Just hand them the title now".

I think they are a super team and are certainly in the mix, if not the favorite at nationals. But as bbg95 said, why don't we run the thing in a few weeks and see how it shakes out.

Implying that they are soooo good that they should be deemed NCAA champs a few weeks prior to nationals is misguided and overly sensational.

N c State look stronger than last year. Maybe BYU had the race of their life last year oh, but I would expect them to be very good again

BYU won by 75 points on a tough course last year. I heard the course this year is a little bit easier? Anyone know if that is true?

N c state looks good but it was a pretty easy course so that spread was very good but you have to take into account easy course

Anyway it should be a really competitive final. Looks like state is purposely working on not going out too hard and then fading like they did last year. But I still think BYU you might be a slight favorite based on how much they won by last year and the fact that Orton is seemingly healthy and competing for a championship

BYU

21 points

1 Whittni Orton

20:01.0

3 Anna Camp

20:07.1

4 Aubrey Frentheway

20:08.9

5 Lexy Halladay

20:17.0

8 McKenna Lee

20:40.5

9Sara Musselman

20:45.6

12 Kate Hunter

20:57.8

13 Haley Johnston

21:00.3

14 Anna Martin

21:01.6

Opinionated guy wrote:

bubbs wrote:

Obviously no one is saying they should suspend nationals.

That is EXACTLY what is being implied with "Just hand them the title now".

I think they are a super team and are certainly in the mix, if not the favorite at nationals. But as bbg95 said, why don't we run the thing in a few weeks and see how it shakes out.

Implying that they are soooo good that they should be deemed NCAA champs a few weeks prior to nationals is misguided and overly sensational.

That is EXACTLY what the super massive genius rojo is asking.

Colorado dominated the PAC-12 today. They are in the discussion with NC State and BYU for the national title. Abby Nichols crushed the field.

Impressive, indeed.

But it's so tough to extrapolate a conference meet where there are some good teams, but nobody anywhere near their level.

Also, you just never know what teams are doing even at conference these days.

I remember in 2017 the BYU men swept the conference meet. 15 points at conference. They had looked far better than portland all year. Well Portland beat them at nationals a few weeks later(Portland finished #2, BYU #3).

You just never know where teams are at or what will happen on race day.

UNM finished 1-7 at MWC, and that didn’t even include Cohen, their Olympian.

BYU, New Mexico and Colorado were all dominant in their conference meets. New Mexico had the top seven runners in the race. Orton looked really strong for BYU, as they put six in the top 10.

Opinionated guy wrote:

bubbs wrote:

Obviously no one is saying they should suspend nationals.

That is EXACTLY what is being implied with "Just hand them the title now".

I think they are a super team and are certainly in the mix, if not the favorite at nationals. But as bbg95 said, why don't we run the thing in a few weeks and see how it shakes out.

Implying that they are soooo good that they should be deemed NCAA champs a few weeks prior to nationals is misguided and overly sensational.

Uh, ok. If you think people are seriously suggesting that the NCAA meet be cancelled then I sincerely don't know how you navigate day-to-day life.

bubbs wrote:

Opinionated guy wrote:

That is EXACTLY what is being implied with "Just hand them the title now".

I think they are a super team and are certainly in the mix, if not the favorite at nationals. But as bbg95 said, why don't we run the thing in a few weeks and see how it shakes out.

Implying that they are soooo good that they should be deemed NCAA champs a few weeks prior to nationals is misguided and overly sensational.

Uh, ok. If you think people are seriously suggesting that the NCAA meet be cancelled then I sincerely don't know how you navigate day-to-day life.

No one really thinks that. We're just saying that it doesn't make a lot of sense to suggest, jokingly or otherwise, that one team should just be handed the title weeks before nationals. Maybe the 2015 New Mexico women warranted that kind of discussion, but New Mexico, BYU and Colorado also looked really strong in their conference meets today.

bubbs wrote:

Opinionated guy wrote:

That is EXACTLY what is being implied with "Just hand them the title now".

I think they are a super team and are certainly in the mix, if not the favorite at nationals. But as bbg95 said, why don't we run the thing in a few weeks and see how it shakes out.

Implying that they are soooo good that they should be deemed NCAA champs a few weeks prior to nationals is misguided and overly sensational.

Uh, ok. If you think people are seriously suggesting that the NCAA meet be cancelled then I sincerely don't know how you navigate day-to-day life.

No kidding. It's like this band of idiots chose to neglect that he put a question mark after "hand them the title now" and not an exclamation point.

It's a provocative thread title to spark conversation, folks. Take a deep breath.

As for the mid-tier conference comments... with that many ranked teams it does beg the question what a top-tier conference must look like.

And by finishing with so few points that several other top-twenty teams could field one all-star team and would still get destroyed by N.C. State, the thread is worthwhile fodder for discussion.

I'm not positive that they'll win the NCAA but I wouldn't make them an underdog against anyone as of now.