Does Leo Young have a shot at the Woodward Park course record this weekend at Clovis Invite?

I think we need to know the record to make that call

Somewhere in the mid 14s, set by a guy with a kind of unique name... Something like "Polish Fernandez"

Boys:

Meet record is 14:28 (Nico Young)

Course record is 14:24 (German Fernandez)

Girls:

Meet record is 16:53 (Corie Smith)

Course record is 16:30 (Claudia Lane)

Boy's meet & course records could be broken.....we'll find out.

Girl's meet record could be at risk, if Ping, Engelhardt, or a few other girls have a good day. Ping just ran a 16:40 at Desert Twilight. Course record is likely out of reach, but I'd he happy to be surprised.

On second thought, I'm not sure Engelhardt (Ventura) is entered......

You have to remember Colin Sahlman as well. Had he backed off a little in the early portions of the Woodbridge course he might have won that race. There's no way he's the 4th best runner on that team.

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You have to remember Colin Sahlman as well. Had he backed off a little in the early portions of the Woodbridge course he might have won that race. There's no way he's the 4th best runner on that team.

If you ask me I would say any of their top 4 has a shot. Who is fastest on a given day probably varies.

In an interview, Bronson suggested that the team is just training through this meet and it's if no particular consequence.

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Discuss. I think he'll get pretty close, but I'm not sure if he will break it. His 13:38 at Woodbridge shows that he might be in shape.

On another note, Newbury Park should have 4 guys under 15, which is insane. Its too bad their #5 hasn't been in shape, otherwise they could have 5 under 15.

I think Alex Mader from Lick and Kenan Pala from Francis Parker will break the D5 course record currently (I believe) at 14:59 and held by Cooper Teare and Trevor Reinhart. If not at Clovis, then at the state meet for sure. They may be the best D5 cross runners in state history and I’d like to see them run head to head with Newbury Park boys and the other large school stars.

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In an interview, Bronson suggested that the team is just training through this meet and it's if no particular consequence.

Lol sure they are. I love stupid coach comments. Don’t worry coach they will perform just fine, you don’t need the advance excuses.

New Records? wrote:

Boys:

Meet record is 14:28 (Nico Young)

Course record is 14:24 (German Fernandez)

Girls:

Meet record is 16:53 (Corie Smith)

Course record is 16:30 (Claudia Lane)

Boy's meet & course records could be broken.....we'll find out.

Girl's meet record could be at risk, if Ping, Engelhardt, or a few other girls have a good day. Ping just ran a 16:40 at Desert Twilight. Course record is likely out of reach, but I'd he happy to be surprised.

Didn't think of the girls course/meet record, but you are definitely right. Meet record will 100% go down, but the course record... 16:30 at Woodward is on another level... I could see it lasting a few more years.

In 2019 at Clovis Invite the weather was quite warm when Nico ran 14:28. Better weather probably would have resulted in sub 14:24.

The weather forecast for this Saturday is much cooler and ideal racing conditions. I'm not sure any of the four are quite as good as Nico was, but all four are probably within 10 seconds on a good day. I predict 1-4 average 14:35 with one under 14:30 (I'm going to say Lex not Leo). Team average will be well under 15:00 and possibly over a minute under previous course record. Without a doubt this is the best team ever (multiple minutes ahead of Arcadia and Great Oak's best times who won a combined 3 NXN titles from 2011-2015).

I’m probably not the only one who thinks this, but we have all track season to think about times. Can XC be about winning and competition.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

I’m probably not the only one who thinks this, but we have all track season to think about times. Can XC be about winning and competition.

Can't it be about both? Just about every high school XC stud in CA history has run Woodward so it's interesting to see how the current top runners stack up against those from 10 or 30 years ago.

Times matter on local courses but nationally it gets muddy

cramister wrote:

Times matter on local courses but nationally it gets muddy

Some courses have been run by enough elite HS runners that the times are meaningful in and of themselves. Woodward Park qualifies. If you hold the course record there, or even among the top 5, you are one of the all time great prep runners.

German Fernandez. Let's see if Leo can top the GOAT HS runner.

I see this. Maybe I'm just anti the XYZ runner runs a 13:45 3-mile XC/14:15 5K. Don't really care for that. Course records are fun IF the course is completely unchanged, but I feel like half of the hallowed marks have some asterisk with some minute course changes that were made in the last 15 years.

GodDoesNotExisz wrote:

German Fernandez. Let's see if Leo can top the GOAT HS runner.

Cheserek ran Woodward?

Woodward has been the site of the state meet since 1987. As far as I know the course has not changed, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Of course weather and course conditions will vary.

https://ca.milesplit.com/articles/285973/remembering-1987-forever-home-woodward-park