You forgot Russia's plan to invaded Kyiv in 4 hours... failed. Russia's plan to surround Kyiv in 3 days... failed. Russia's seige of Kyiv... failed. Russia's plan to weaken NATO... failed. Russia's plan to oust Zelensky... failed. Russia's ability to rebuild what's left of their military... nonexistent. Europe's plan to move away from economic ties with Russia... accelerated. Russia's stock market... down 25% over the last year. Russia's GDP... tumbling 20% this year (How do you say, "We're so jealous of North Korea." in Russian?). Russia's credit rating... C (and that's before they default on their bond payments due this week and next). Russia's foreign currency reserves... dropping.
Vladimir Wigins devastated as usual.
These were not Russian plans.
Think about the sources.
This is the usual CIA disinformation
You also never addressed whether it was part of Russia's plans to turn their soldiers into nuclear weapons by having them dig trenches in the Red Forest (at least until they die from acute radiation syndrome).
Russians can't fight, all they can do is bomb buildings and kill women and children. Putin blew this big time, and when he finally realizes he is whipped watch him do something stupid.
Why nobody is burning Moscow down right now, a....???
You also never addressed whether it was part of Russia's plans to turn their soldiers into nuclear weapons by having them dig trenches in the Red Forest (at least until they die from acute radiation syndrome).
They never dig trenches there.
What a BS. Do you still believe in Santa?
I can't believe how naive (just not to say idiotic) can people be
For what reason do you think Russian soldiers would do that?
Gimme one damn reason?
They just guarded the perimeter around nuclear station that's it
Ukrainian propaganda generates those fakes non stop - Russian bombed Mariupol hospital, russian rape woman, russian kill all men they can find, russian dig tranches in radioactive forest
You also never addressed whether it was part of Russia's plans to turn their soldiers into nuclear weapons by having them dig trenches in the Red Forest (at least until they die from acute radiation syndrome).
They never dig trenches there.
What a BS. Do you still believe in Santa?
I can't believe how naive (just not to say idiotic) can people be
For what reason do you think Russian soldiers would do that?
Gimme one damn reason?
They just guarded the perimeter around nuclear station that's it
Ukrainian propaganda generates those fakes non stop - Russian bombed Mariupol hospital, russian rape woman, russian kill all men they can find, russian dig tranches in radioactive forest
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If this Ukraine war is all a secret plan by the liberal world order to get someone else to fight a war against Russia…. Then WOW, a genius bit of statecraft. Get someone else to fight, defeat, and eternally humiliate one of your main geopolitical rivals?? Biden is a God.
You are absolutely right That is what is happening. It is exactly what Russia saw coming, declared they see coming and stated as a reason behind decision to make preemptive strike on proxy that was seen to carry out the plan. The only question remaining, who will end defeated and/or humiliated and to what extent.
So, all you hypocrites, stop pretending that you care about Ukraine and Ukrainians, Harambe spoke the truth.
Sure am glad that the senile 85 year old in the White House is out maneuvering the entire Russian Autocracy. Note: Trump did NOT do this. He attempted to control Russia in other ways that were not nearly as effective as humiliating them militarily with effective 0 cost to America.
The USSR claimed the Nazis had killed the victims, and it continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990, when it officially acknowledged and condemned the killings by the NKVD, as well as the subsequent cover-up by the Soviet government.
The Soviet Union in the 40s thru 80s is not = Russia in 2022
Putin was a KGB officer and one of his jobs was supporting neo-Nazi groups in West Germany. He is the old USSR in new clothes. He just has a system that is more efficient in stealing from his people to fund his yachts and homes and pad his bank accounts.
You also never addressed whether it was part of Russia's plans to turn their soldiers into nuclear weapons by having them dig trenches in the Red Forest (at least until they die from acute radiation syndrome).
They never dig trenches there.
What a BS. Do you still believe in Santa?
I can't believe how naive (just not to say idiotic) can people be
For what reason do you think Russian soldiers would do that?
Gimme one damn reason?
They just guarded the perimeter around nuclear station that's it
Ukrainian propaganda generates those fakes non stop - Russian bombed Mariupol hospital, russian rape woman, russian kill all men they can find, russian dig tranches in radioactive forest
And some nevergrown believe all that
The troll farm grammar and usage standards have eroded. You aren't convincing to a mostly American audience when your post reads like dialog from Russian sailors in the 1966 movie "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming". You are wasting your time.
You also never addressed whether it was part of Russia's plans to turn their soldiers into nuclear weapons by having them dig trenches in the Red Forest (at least until they die from acute radiation syndrome).
They never dig trenches there.
What a BS. Do you still believe in Santa?
I can't believe how naive (just not to say idiotic) can people be
For what reason do you think Russian soldiers would do that?
Gimme one damn reason?
They just guarded the perimeter around nuclear station that's it
Ukrainian propaganda generates those fakes non stop - Russian bombed Mariupol hospital, russian rape woman, russian kill all men they can find, russian dig tranches in radioactive forest
And some nevergrown believe all that
Ha ha ha ha. Most obvious russian troll so far. Well, carmine aside.
I can't believe how naive (just not to say idiotic) can people be
For what reason do you think Russian soldiers would do that?
Gimme one damn reason?
They just guarded the perimeter around nuclear station that's it
Ukrainian propaganda generates those fakes non stop - Russian bombed Mariupol hospital, russian rape woman, russian kill all men they can find, russian dig tranches in radioactive forest
And some nevergrown believe all that
The troll farm grammar and usage standards have eroded. You aren't convincing to a mostly American audience when your post reads like dialog from Russian sailors in the 1966 movie "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming". You are wasting your time.
I don't try to convince anyone
I entertain myself observing idiocy of an average american hobby jogger
The troll farm grammar and usage standards have eroded. You aren't convincing to a mostly American audience when your post reads like dialog from Russian sailors in the 1966 movie "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming". You are wasting your time.
I don't try to convince anyone
Good. Because if you are trying to convince anyone you are doing a terrible (Russian army level terrible) job.
p.s. Don't even start to pretend that the attacks on Kyiv were just a distraction. Putin made it very clear in his essay last year ("On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians") that he wants ALL of Ukraine to be Russian territory and blames the Bolsheviks for allowing Ukraine to be a separate country.
Isn't Putin pathological liar? Why would you believe him on this and not believe him on something else?
p.s. Don't even start to pretend that the attacks on Kyiv were just a distraction. Putin made it very clear in his essay last year ("On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians") that he wants ALL of Ukraine to be Russian territory and blames the Bolsheviks for allowing Ukraine to be a separate country.
Isn't Putin pathological liar? Why would you believe him on this and not believe him on something else?
When it is self-serving it’s not a lie. It’s pretty easy to figure out for most of us.
So, what was Russia's intention behind sending an air assault plan of 1,000 paratroopers to Antonov Airport at Hostomel, followed by IL 76 transport plans with 7,000 men and their armored vehicles on the first night of the invasion? It was a plan to rapidly defeat Ukraine by taking control of the capital; just as Russia / the Soviet Union did in Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968 and Afghanistan in 1979. Fortunately, a few of the IL 76 transport planes were shot down and Putin's 4 hour plan to take control of Ukraine was thwarted.
Plan B was to send the 35th Combined Arms Army (roughly 70,000 men, 7,000 armored vehicles including 2,100 tanks) overland from Belarus to encircle Kyiv, just as Putin had done to the capital city of Chechnya, Grozny during the second Chechan War. Once Kyiv was encircled, he would just bombard it until there was nothing left standing. Fortunately, Russian logistics are terrible, and after the first day the 35th Combined Arms Army ran out of fuel. The 40 mile long resupply convoy spent two weeks trying to reach the 35th CAA, and was never able to.
Plan C was to retreat from Kyiv like a scolded child. So far, that's worked out okay for Russia.
So, since you seem to know the mind of Putin well, what was Russia's plan for the 35th CAA? What about the scenario I have laid out do you dispute? When you're only retort is "CIA disinformation" (for which you've offered no evidence), and to be honest, I'm not even sure what that means in the context of Russia's failure to achieve any significant strategic objectives in Northern Ukraine. Or, do you somehow believe that Russia has successfully occupied Kyiv?
And, what would CIA disinformation have to do with any of the other outcomes that I listed that are catastrophic for a third-world nation such as Russia? Is there anything lower than third-world? Could Russia become the first fourth-world nation? I don't think so, because China will just buy them before that happens. But, in that case Vlad better start learning Mandarin.
Do you think the Russia economy is doing well this year? Do you think Russia will be in a longterm recession / depression because of their invasion? Do you think the MOEX is up year to date? Do you think that sanctions are doing anything? If not, then why is Putin so obsessed with calling them illegal? Do you think the average Russian is thriving under the sanctions?
Please, spell it out for me since you seem to have all the answers.
p.s. Don't even start to pretend that the attacks on Kyiv were just a distraction. Putin made it very clear in his essay last year ("On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians") that he wants ALL of Ukraine to be Russian territory and blames the Bolsheviks for allowing Ukraine to be a separate country.
That's a very interesting, organized, detailed, logical and informative response. You must not have been around here very long if you think you will get anything similar in response from Carmine9. Most people don't really respond to him substantively, but rather use him as a punching bag.
Here's his response inventory no matter what the topic (and usually formed as a incredibly lame rhetorical question):
-- something about Israel and/or Palestine
-- whataboutyouism with some broad statement about America or Israel
-- something like "its shocking that you don't realize how wrong you are" or "you've been misled by propaganda" - seriously, to your 6 paragraphs of facts and analysis above, you will get something as trite as that.
-- some pretense that he cares about brown children in [take your pick] Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Vietnam, Mordor, etc.
-- Covid is fake and everything about is oligarch control
You coming here to learn about track and field for your kids is the lie of the day.
LOL! I am open book for your readings! Lol! Lol! Lol!
Rest assured, I am around this forum for years. Since 2017, or so. I always enjoy racist exchanges btw. African lovers and white supremacists, about who is doped more. Is it Kenyans, or Paula Radcliffe. Not to mention poor Russians, who keep it under state organization instead of outsourcing it to private companies and camps, like you do in the USA.
Good. Because if you are trying to convince anyone you are doing a terrible (Russian army level terrible) job.
I'm quite aware people running above 50 miles per week have lower IQ as all energy diverted to legs. So I know no amount of rationality will convince a hobby jogger about absurdity of digging tranches in radiocative by Russian.
But it's really interesting to observe people like you. Sort of zoo
Good. Because if you are trying to convince anyone you are doing a terrible (Russian army level terrible) job.
I'm quite aware people running above 50 miles per week have lower IQ as all energy diverted to legs. So I know no amount of rationality will convince a hobby jogger about absurdity of digging tranches in radiocative by Russian.
But it's really interesting to observe people like you. Sort of zoo
These may help your argument, Mr. High IQ letsrun poster:
