You don't just declare the employers are doing it and then put them in jail you have to prove it.
It’s very hard for the government to prove what an employer knows in his head about his workers. Prosecuting them is difficult and rarely successful when the standard is literally "reasonable doubt".
As always, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Almost 400 illegals and he gets released/commuted. The GOP and Trump betrayed us.
We don't actually know how many get in without being caught.
Whatever the level of illegal immigration really is, we have been sustaining it for many decades.
If you want to be mad at someone, get mad at all the Republican business owners who keep hiring them. The reason they come here is for the jobs. So if you really wanted to keep them out you would just go after the business owners who flout the law. It would be a lot cheaper and more effective than adding more border agents or building new walls.
1. We do have good estimates of how many get in, and it's way higher than previous years.
2. Oh, you want to stop business owners from hiring them? Then require e-verify and punish employers who do so. And vote out Democrats in places like California that have BANNED e-verify. And strengthen our border security so that there are fewer to hire. In other words, do the opposite of what the Democrats have been doing.
Oof!! And once again, Fat hurts has played himself. Take the "L" Fats and move on.
You don't just declare the employers are doing it and then put them in jail you have to prove it.
It’s very hard for the government to prove what an employer knows in his head about his workers. Prosecuting them is difficult and rarely successful when the standard is literally "reasonable doubt".
As always, you have no idea what you're talking about.
It's not difficult at all. The employer is required to file I-9 forms. If they don't file for every single employee, then they've broken the law. You just start going to employers you suspect and scrutinize the I-9 forms.
Also, "if an employer knows or has reason to know" that an employee is undocumented, they've broken the law. The "has reason to know" is not a big legal hurdle.
So this is not hard at all to prosecute. But even if you don't get a prosecution, just arresting and going to trial is enough to deter the perpetrators.
So are you with me? Should we go after these lawbreakers and solve the problem?
Sure lock them all up. It's not as easy as you think.
I don't care what he did as a businessman. He wasn't in government so it wasn't his job to fight illegal immigration. The fact is when he was PRESIDENT he did a good job controlling the border and reducing illegal immigration. And all that progress was lost when the Democrats got their hands on things.
Are you slow on the uptake?
He aided and abetted those who knowingly encouraged illegal immigration.
It's rusting in construction yards all along the border. Already paid for and Biden is letting it rot because the painfully stupid millennials who tell him what to do and say haven't figured out that Hispanics left the Democratic party yet.
The open border is all Brandon's fault. How these brainless LR libs continue to defend this walking dementia patient occupying the WH is beyond comprehension.
Instead of answering her question, Biden instead began talking about his administration’s plans to appeal the recent striking down of the federal airplane mask mandates.
Can we get to the bottom of this ... On the Trump thread?!?
I looked into this alleged "Trump thread." It's full of awful, fire-breathing liberals. They have no interested in figuring out why Trump filpped the F out, or how much he lost it. None. All they want to do is bash our former President.
If there is going to be ANY substantive discussion of how bad Trump spazzed out and why, it will have to be done here, IMHFO. Because he threw a total knock-down fit. I mean he just went full boat batshift, you know? Like all mental.
Yesterday, interviewer and controversy junkie Piers Morgan released a deceptively edited clip on social media appearing to show a contentious end to an interview between himself and former President Donald Trump.
Can we get to the bottom of this ... On the Trump thread?!?
I looked into this alleged "Trump thread." It's full of awful, fire-breathing liberals. They have no interested in figuring out why Trump filpped the F out, or how much he lost it. None. All they want to do is bash our former President.
If there is going to be ANY substantive discussion of how bad Trump spazzed out and why, it will have to be done here, IMHFO.
Nope, sorry. This is the Biden thread. The correct thread for that is the Trump thread. Here's the link again if you lost it:
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Who you got, the bikers or the liberal whiners? I'm thinking the bikers in a landslide.LRC Note: This thread was inititially titled, "Official LRC President Donald J Trump Inauguration Thread " and is the thread to discuss/...
I meant that is the SORT of thing that Rs do that causes recessions. the sort of bad economic idea meant to rally the base but is just stupid. Like ending the iran deal and taking millions of barrels of oil off the global market. Like starting trade wars. Like ending the child tax credit. etc.
Okay. What SIMILAR R policies caused the previous recessions?
Ending the Iran deal didn't cause a recession. Reducing the child tax credit (which they created, and increased) didn't cause a recession. Starting a "trade war" (which Biden fully supported, and has since done almost nothing to end) didn't cause a recession.
Still waiting on this. What "similar" policies caused any of our previous recessions?
Okay. What SIMILAR R policies caused the previous recessions?
Ending the Iran deal didn't cause a recession. Reducing the child tax credit (which they created, and increased) didn't cause a recession. Starting a "trade war" (which Biden fully supported, and has since done almost nothing to end) didn't cause a recession.
Still waiting on this. What "similar" policies caused any of our previous recessions?
It's not difficult at all. The employer is required to file I-9 forms. If they don't file for every single employee, then they've broken the law. You just start going to employers you suspect and scrutinize the I-9 forms.
Also, "if an employer knows or has reason to know" that an employee is undocumented, they've broken the law. The "has reason to know" is not a big legal hurdle.
So this is not hard at all to prosecute. But even if you don't get a prosecution, just arresting and going to trial is enough to deter the perpetrators.
So are you with me? Should we go after these lawbreakers and solve the problem?
Sure lock them all up. It's not as easy as you think.
You don't need to lock them all up. Just enough so that everyone gets the message.
I'm glad you finally agree that we need to crack down on those Republican business owners who knowingly employ undocumented workers.
With this bipartisan agreement, we can finally make some progress.
I looked into this alleged "Trump thread." It's full of awful, fire-breathing liberals. They have no interested in figuring out why Trump filpped the F out, or how much he lost it. None. All they want to do is bash our former President.
If there is going to be ANY substantive discussion of how bad Trump spazzed out and why, it will have to be done here, IMHFO.
Nope, sorry. This is the Biden thread. The correct thread for that is the Trump thread. Here's the link again if you lost it:
I don't like your tone, Clown. It's too snippy. I feel like you are hiding something about Trump's blow up. If you watch the video in slo-mo, you can actually see the moment when his brain goes full spazz and short circuits all sense of reality. The look in his eyes, like a dark madman staring into the abyss and there is nothing staring back. Trump went all freakin' baboon. I don't know how his handlers got him calmed down. Because he was spinning like a dreidel made out of clay.
note that one m/aga governor (desantis) is punishing a company for disagreeing with him on politics
welcome to 2025, boys and girls. m'ga will punish us all.
DeSantis is effectively raising taxes on the residents of Orange and Osceola counties to pay for his Disney "revenge". Just to pay the bonds that they will get stuck with is over a billion dollars. Plus there will be lots of other expenses like police, fire, and sewer services, that Disney will no longer pay for. And those taxpayers will see zero in new revenue.
You know how they are always talking about the importance of the I-4 corridor on election night? Guess which way the voters will go this time.
Biden is now moving officers from the north (and not allowing them to do their jobs) down to the border so illegals can be more efficiently moved to the interior of the US. Wow. Henry Cueller is a solid Dem and he can't believe what Biden is doing.
Rep. Henry Cuellar said Thursday the Biden administration plans to move officers from northern part of the U.S. to deal with the border surge after Title 42 lifts.
Biden is now moving officers from the north (and not allowing them to do their jobs) down to the border so illegals can be more efficiently moved to the interior of the US. Wow. Henry Cueller is a solid Dem and he can't believe what Biden is doing.
Biden is now moving officers from the north (and not allowing them to do their jobs) down to the border so illegals can be more efficiently moved to the interior of the US. Wow. Henry Cueller is a solid Dem and he can't believe what Biden is doing.
How about you, Sally? Do you support going after business owners who hire undocumented workers? Do you want to put those criminals in prison?
That would definitely be the most efficient way to stop illegal immigration.
Actually, the most efficient way to stop illegal immigration is to secure the border. The best way to do that is with a wall. Israel did it and illegals crossing was cut 99.9%. Are you in favor of a wall spanning the entire southern border? Do you really want to secure the border?
so now that American 'conservatives' approve of government going after businesses that disagree with a governor...
I'm thinking NY should go after Fox. Just hit them with some extra taxes and building inspections. I'm sure the building inspector will find some stuff that isn't kosher.
We cool with that, m.gas?
Maybe CA can find some right-wing organizations to harass. Maybe churches that tell members how to vote. Should be fun.