Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Incitement of violence?

So the WH is starting a rural initiative to help rural people, despite the fact they will never vote for a Democrat. Pretty cool, right? Fact is, Dems have always fought for the little guy and 'conservatives' have always fought against the little guy. You can name a dozen issues where the Rs have fought against helping poor rural people. Which is why Rs have made transgenders and guns their main issues - so the little guy stays so filled up with meaningless rage that they don't realize their pockets are being picked to help rich people.

On Wednesday, the Biden administration announced a new initiative, the Rural Partners Network, that aims to reset the way Washington works with rural communities around the U.S.
Led by the Department of Agriculture, the program will place federal employees in rural communities around the country to live and work — and bring more federal dollars to the nation's most isolated communities in the process. Their mission is to help locals navigate Washington’s intimidating bureaucracy all the way down to the level of assisting with grant proposals.
Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and White House Domestic Policy Adviser Susan Rice will officially launch the program Wednesday in Mississippi, and it will begin in more than 25 rural communities and tribal nations across five states — Arizona, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, and New Mexico.

note yet another example of how russia supports disruptive right wing candidates in the West. Russia gave a loan to Marine LePen's party a few years ago, at the same time the Russians were supporting the Republican Party in the USA.

Russia will support the bad guys in the West, the ones who will disrupt and weaken their nations. Sorry boys, but that includes Donald J Trump, Marine LePen and the Republican Party. You guys are the bad guys, unfortunately. Linked to Putin forever in history. You are fellow travelers with Vlad Putin. Must sort of hurt, don't it? Knowing that in 50 years you will be considered foolish bad guys, embedded in the West? Like we now feel about the American Nazi Party or the American Communist Party.

On Thursday, Mediapart news portal reported that, apart from the two loans she received in 2014, Le Pen asked for money from Russian financial institutions in June 2016. The sum of the loan amounted to $3.2 million and was aimed at "financing [the] French electoral campaign."
The media outlet obtained two internal documents from the National Front (FN) party: the first one, dated June 15, 2016, was an itinerary from a party meeting where a loan form Russia's Strategy Bank was discussed, and the second contained an agreement to transfer the money to Le Pen to cover presidential campaign costs.
Dishonest Move
The reaction from the National Front party came on Friday, when the party's treasurer, Wallerand de Saint-Just, called the publication a "dishonest" and "stupid" move.

The Georgia Trump Grand Jury will start hearing testimony in June. Because pressuring officials to steal an election for you is...you know...illegal.

but of course no jury in the confederacy would ever convict trump. So he'll be indicted and found innocent and trump will use that to win even more votes.. 'totally exonerated.' he will say. After pressuring officials to steal an election. So shameful. We're doomed.

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"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) will wait until after primary elections next month to begin taking testimony over former President Trump’s alleged push to overturn Georgia’s election results in 2020.
Willis told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that testimony would not begin until June 1, following primary elections scheduled for May 24, in an effort to avoid the appearance of any underlying political motivations."

He will never be found innocent, just guilty or not guilty. It is not necessary to prove actual innocence in order to be acquitted.

True, that's not the reason, but I DO love how Trumpers like Sally think it's unreasonable for liberals to hate Trump. ALL Americans should hate Trump. Hatred is earned. Trump earned that hatred.

1) Just on a personal level, he's a hateful person. He's a multi-time adulterer. He infuses violence into his speeches (telling police officers to rough up suspects, telling rally goers that he'll pay their legal bills if they take care of a protester, etc.). He makes fun of disabled people. He admires murderous dictators.

2) He's so stupid. Now, liberals don't just hate stupid people. We all have gifts or lack thereof by chance. The problem with Trump's stupidity is that he thinks he's on the other side of the intelligence scale, and his stupidity actually harms people. Suggesting people use Hydroxychloroquine, suggesting that we inject disinfectants to treat COVID, etc. He mentioned many times that you actually could not literally see a stealth fighter aircraft with your own eyes. He thinks windmills cause cancer. He thought there were airports in the 1700s. He is unquestionably the dumbest person ever to be elected President.

3) He's a serial liar. All politicians lie now and then. All politicians shade the truth. Trump lies no one else. By one count, Trump told 30,573 public lies during his presidency — averaging 20.9 lies per day. How many more lies did he tell per day in private?

4) He took nepotism to the next level. Ivanka and Jared had no business being advisors to the President. Neither of them have any experience that should have given them such positions. Ridiculous.

5) At this point I realize I could be adding reasons all day why liberals hate Trump. I'll just use this point as a summary. He's stupid. He's mean. He's a serial liar. He's sexist. He's racist. He believes in an autocracy which is anti-American. He tried to overturn our fair election. I could even keep that list going on and on. He has ~two DOZEN accusations of sexual harassment/assault against him. Never have we had a President that was so hateful.

Incorrect.

Nope.

Putin and Hamas are still on Twitter. Whatever the reason is it's idiotic and not applied to anyone who's politics they like.

Don't be so sure. I believe this will be a Fulton County jury. So it's possible.

It will be hard to get a conviction no matter what. But it will be a victory if it even goes to trial.

It really has nothing to do with politics.

You can't be that naive...

Twitter itself said he was banned because of risk of further violence. And for violating company rules.

Fat Hurts, I'm interested in what you believe to be the reason Trump was banned by Twitter. As Sally mentioned, Twitter specifically said this - "due to the risk of further incitement of violence." Seems reasonable to me. I suppose they could have another reason and are just using the stated one as cover. Do tell.

You do make a good point here. Being a horrible person does not get you kicked off of Twitter.

In fact, it actually increases the likelihood that you're on the board.

I will reveal the reason soon. "Incitement of violence" may be a proximate cause, but it's not the real reason.

Yep.

"After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off
Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of
further incitement of violence.

In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. Our public interest framework exists to enable the public to hear from elected officials and world leaders directly. It is built on a principle that the people have a right to hold power to account in the open. However, we made it clear going back years that these accounts are
not above our rules entirely and cannot use Twitter to incite violence, among other things.

We will continue to be transparent around our policies and their enforcement.
The below is a comprehensive analysis of our policy enforcement approach in this case.

Overview

On January 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump Tweeted:

“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

Shortly thereafter, the President Tweeted: “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.” Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks.

After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.

Assessment

We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy,
which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. This determination is based on a number of factors, including: President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him
disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th. The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending.

The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol. The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition”
and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election.

Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021. As such, our determination is that the two Tweets above are likely to
inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021, and that there are multiple indicators that they are being received and understood as encouragement to do so." - Twitter