And Biden has prices at $5.98 in California and it isn't even summer yet... Is $6 more or less than $3?
As always the point you're making isn't the point you think you're making... lol.
You know that Presidents don't control the price of gas, right? You know that it's a global market, right?
Please mention the XL Pipeline...(oh please, oh please, oh please).
It's a global market that's traded in US dollars. When the US president prints $6 TRILLION dollars the price of oil goes up. When the US president attacks domestic oil production the price goes up.
The XL pipeline literally would have reduced oil prices. Increasing the supply of a global commodity reduces the price of that commodity. That's why Biden is begging OPEC to increase production.
1) Sorry, but the economy began its boom from March 2009...very steadily getting better, and not slowly either. The vast majority of Obama's time in office was under an economic boom that continued into Trump's dictatorship.
This is one of the dumber things you've ever said in a long history of idiotic statements.
GDP growth literally decreased in 4 of Obama's 8 years. Growth broke 3% 1 time despite starting at ROCK BOTTOM. At no point was it "booming"
2) Trump absolutely politicized the virus. No debate.
Trump's first response to the virus was to try and restrict travel from China. The left's response was a media crusade calling Trump "RACIST" for trying to restrict travel from the country the virus originated in... You so "no debate" because anyone who looks will notice the left politicized it first.
3) We have fewer people working today instead of pre-COVID for three main reasons (in order of importance): A) Baby Boomers retiring completely. They are older. They don't want to be exposed to COVID out in the workplace, and many did very well in the stock market the last 13 years. B) The pandemic AND the stupid America First mantra kept needed immigrants from coming here. C) Lots of people died due to the pandemic.
You're inventing reasons without actually looking. Half the fast food joints in the coutnry aren't closing at 8pm on weekdays because Baby Boomers retired.
4) Inflation -- I didn't even read whatever nonsense you put there. You said double-digit inflation when that's not what we have. I called you out on that. No need for me to read any more of your nonsense about that.
You don't understand inflation. The real rate is 7.9%. People aren't paying 7.9% more at the grocery store. The cost of meat, poultry, fish and eggs is 13% higher since February 2021. Fresh fruit has gone up 10.6% in price in that time. As always you just don't know what you're talking about.
5) INCORRECT! Inflation is really the only bad indicator we have now. We need more workers, so in my opinion we should loosen up rules to get more immigrants here. More workers helps with tax revenue. The economy is straight up busting. Yeah, I said "busting."
LOL! Tell me you have no basic understanding of economics without telling me you have no basic understanding of economics.
8) No, you are not very well informed. You disagreeing with me has nothing to do about it. You believe nonsense conspiracy theories. You don't see facts. You make ridiculous statements about mid-term elections as if they mean anything other than that's what voters do. You are the most ill-informed person who posts in this thread. This is not for you. Full stop.
Midterm elections are extremely important. Clinton got clobbered in 1994. In response he moderated and worked with Republicans the economy soared. Obama got clobbered in 2010. In response he doubled down on the partisanship and accomplished nothing for 6 years. Obama's "elections have consequences" attitude directly led to the election of Trump. The democrats loss in 2010 was historically bad. This year will be even worse.
Gonna just stop you with #1. You are just flat wrong about everything you spew, so I'm not interested in refuting all of your nonsense all day. Like I said, you are the most ill-informed poster on this message board. Stupid too.
Obama GDP growth by his years in office:
2009: -2.5% (this is the ONLY one with a negative GDP, and that is almost completely due to the horrible situation he inherited that vastly effected Jan. and Feb. Remember, I said the recovery began in March, which it did) 2010: +2.6% 2011: +1.6% 2012: +2.2% 2013: +1.8% 2014: +2.5% 2015: +3.1% 2016: +1.7%
ALL of the other years are positive, so NOT 4 of them negative as you ignorantly said.
Trump's GDP over 4 years? 0.95%. The GDP rate under Trump was MUCH LOWER than the previous 7 US Presidents.
Stop with your nonsense. You DO NOT know what you're talking about. Probably going to take a break the rest of the day responding directly to you. Go read something. Stop being an idiot.
1) Something that eventually ends is temporary by definition. Again, a non-comment from Biden.
Another idiotic comment. Fires are temporary. Be sure to ignore any fires that break out in your home because it won't last forever... why worry?
2) SOME economists say that. The fact remains that The Fed has promised to aggressively raise rates...as I said.
And it will trigger a recession.
3) Doesn't matter why the recession hit under Trump, only that it did. Yes, gas prices rose once Biden took office because the recession ended. I clearly said that a recession in and of itself can cause a drop in gas prices. Dude, you are barking up the wrong tree trying to debate with me.
Yes gas prices dropped during COVID. They have since risen to DOUBLE what they were pre-pandemic. An intelligent would just avoid talking about gas prices to defend Biden. Alas, that ain't you.
Debating with you is indeed pointless. You're immune to reason the only thing larger than your mental deficiency is your ego.
4) No, "Biden ruined everything" is completely wrong. As we sit here today, the economy is doing great. Fact. I will take rising wages for workers and a 3.6% unemployment rate any day. GDP is up too. You're wrong.
The economy is doing great. Compared to 2020. Compared to 2019 it hasn't caught up yet.
Unemployment is 3.6% today and you are so excited you can't stand it. In February 2020 unemployment was 3.5%.
Inflation is 7.9%. In February 2020 inflation was 2.3%
And on and on and on...
You live in an echo chamber. When you only read news from people who say what you like to hear you just end up ignorant.
1) Sorry, but the economy began its boom from March 2009...very steadily getting better, and not slowly either. The vast majority of Obama's time in office was under an economic boom that continued into Trump's dictatorship.
This is one of the dumber things you've ever said in a long history of idiotic statements.
GDP growth literally decreased in 4 of Obama's 8 years. Growth broke 3% 1 time despite starting at ROCK BOTTOM. At no point was it "booming"
2) Trump absolutely politicized the virus. No debate.
Trump's first response to the virus was to try and restrict travel from China. The left's response was a media crusade calling Trump "RACIST" for trying to restrict travel from the country the virus originated in... You so "no debate" because anyone who looks will notice the left politicized it first.
3) We have fewer people working today instead of pre-COVID for three main reasons (in order of importance): A) Baby Boomers retiring completely. They are older. They don't want to be exposed to COVID out in the workplace, and many did very well in the stock market the last 13 years. B) The pandemic AND the stupid America First mantra kept needed immigrants from coming here. C) Lots of people died due to the pandemic.
You're inventing reasons without actually looking. Half the fast food joints in the coutnry aren't closing at 8pm on weekdays because Baby Boomers retired.
4) Inflation -- I didn't even read whatever nonsense you put there. You said double-digit inflation when that's not what we have. I called you out on that. No need for me to read any more of your nonsense about that.
You don't understand inflation. The real rate is 7.9%. People aren't paying 7.9% more at the grocery store. The cost of meat, poultry, fish and eggs is 13% higher since February 2021. Fresh fruit has gone up 10.6% in price in that time. As always you just don't know what you're talking about.
5) INCORRECT! Inflation is really the only bad indicator we have now. We need more workers, so in my opinion we should loosen up rules to get more immigrants here. More workers helps with tax revenue. The economy is straight up busting. Yeah, I said "busting."
LOL! Tell me you have no basic understanding of economics without telling me you have no basic understanding of economics.
8) No, you are not very well informed. You disagreeing with me has nothing to do about it. You believe nonsense conspiracy theories. You don't see facts. You make ridiculous statements about mid-term elections as if they mean anything other than that's what voters do. You are the most ill-informed person who posts in this thread. This is not for you. Full stop.
Midterm elections are extremely important. Clinton got clobbered in 1994. In response he moderated and worked with Republicans the economy soared. Obama got clobbered in 2010. In response he doubled down on the partisanship and accomplished nothing for 6 years. Obama's "elections have consequences" attitude directly led to the election of Trump. The democrats loss in 2010 was historically bad. This year will be even worse.
Gonna just stop you with #1. You are just flat wrong about everything you spew, so I'm not interested in refuting all of your nonsense all day. Like I said, you are the most ill-informed poster on this message board. Stupid too.
Obama GDP growth by his years in office:
2009: -2.5% (this is the ONLY one with a negative GDP, and that is almost completely due to the horrible situation he inherited that vastly effected Jan. and Feb. Remember, I said the recovery began in March, which it did) 2010: +2.6% 2011: +1.6% 2012: +2.2% 2013: +1.8% 2014: +2.5% 2015: +3.1% 2016: +1.7%
ALL of the other years are positive, so NOT 4 of them negative as you ignorantly said.
Trump's GDP over 4 years? 0.95%. The GDP rate under Trump was MUCH LOWER than the previous 7 US Presidents.
Stop with your nonsense. You DO NOT know what you're talking about. Probably going to take a break the rest of the day responding directly to you. Go read something. Stop being an idiot.
The growth decreased... Is 1.6 more or less than 2.6? is 1.8 more or less than 2.2? Is 1.7 more or less than 3.1?
It wasn't "BOOMING" it was slowly recovering from rock bottom. The economy was booming in the 90s. See the difference.
You can insult me all you like I still have shoes smarter than you.
I cannot wait to see the LR libidiots melt down on election night 2022 & again in 2024- agip will somehow spin it as being great for the democrat party.
You know that Presidents don't control the price of gas, right? You know that it's a global market, right?
Please mention the XL Pipeline...(oh please, oh please, oh please).
It's a global market that's traded in US dollars. When the US president prints $6 TRILLION dollars the price of oil goes up. When the US president attacks domestic oil production the price goes up.
The XL pipeline literally would have reduced oil prices. Increasing the supply of a global commodity reduces the price of that commodity. That's why Biden is begging OPEC to increase production.
This is WAAAAY over your head.
We have covered Keystone here ad nauseam.
If Biden had allowed Keystone to continue, it would not be completed by now. It was only 8% completed under Trump. So it could not possibly be making a difference today.
Also, it is monumentally stupid to build new oil and gas infrastructure right now. Fossil fuels are being phased out in favor of cheaper alternatives.
You know that Presidents don't control the price of gas, right? You know that it's a global market, right?
Please mention the XL Pipeline...(oh please, oh please, oh please).
It's a global market that's traded in US dollars. When the US president prints $6 TRILLION dollars the price of oil goes up. When the US president attacks domestic oil production the price goes up.
The XL pipeline literally would have reduced oil prices. Increasing the supply of a global commodity reduces the price of that commodity. That's why Biden is begging OPEC to increase production.
This is WAAAAY over your head.
Oh...ha ha ha ha! You took the bait and commented!? WOW, you are so dumb. Ok, THIS ONE IS FUN, so I WILL respond to you on this.
1) The construction of the pipeline you spew about was shut down by the Supreme Court in 2020 when TRUMP was still in office.
2) The pipeline was to carry the dirties oil, Canadian tar sands into the US to eventually be refined and shipped over seas to make cheap rubber and other petroleum-based products. It would NOT have lowered the price of oil or gasoline. Those tar sands are still being delivered...just by truck and not a pipeline. Again, it was shut down by THE SUPREME COURT...THE MOST CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT IN DECADES.
3) What did Biden do? He revoked a permit that had no teeth anyway because the Supreme Court shut the construction down. So, Biden doing that is really just throwing a bone to his environmentalist left. Fools like you on the right actually think Biden stopped something that would have oil flowing like never before, giving us cheap gas. NOPE!
4) Just more facts for you. There are currently over 9,100 drill permits available to oil companies to drill on US soil. They can drill and drill and drill if they want to.
Dude, you know nothing. Again, the discussions that go on here are not for you.
It's a global market that's traded in US dollars. When the US president prints $6 TRILLION dollars the price of oil goes up. When the US president attacks domestic oil production the price goes up.
The XL pipeline literally would have reduced oil prices. Increasing the supply of a global commodity reduces the price of that commodity. That's why Biden is begging OPEC to increase production.
This is WAAAAY over your head.
We have covered Keystone here ad nauseam.
If Biden had allowed Keystone to continue, it would not be completed by now. It was only 8% completed under Trump. So it could not possibly be making a difference today.
Also, it is monumentally stupid to build new oil and gas infrastructure right now. Fossil fuels are being phased out in favor of cheaper alternatives.
True. The reason The Keystone Extension was shut down though was due to environmental impact..."unlawfully failed to evaluate threats to endangered species before issuing the permit."
Had it been completed at any time in the future, it would not have affected the price of gas for reasons I mentioned in an earlier post.
It's a global market that's traded in US dollars. When the US president prints $6 TRILLION dollars the price of oil goes up. When the US president attacks domestic oil production the price goes up.
The XL pipeline literally would have reduced oil prices. Increasing the supply of a global commodity reduces the price of that commodity. That's why Biden is begging OPEC to increase production.
This is WAAAAY over your head.
We have covered Keystone here ad nauseam.
If Biden had allowed Keystone to continue, it would not be completed by now. It was only 8% completed under Trump. So it could not possibly be making a difference today.
Also, it is monumentally stupid to build new oil and gas infrastructure right now. Fossil fuels are being phased out in favor of cheaper alternatives.
The "cheaper" alternatives aren't cheaper.
The president of the USA being openly hostile to an industry impacts that industry.
Denying this is lunacy.
The president of the USA can impact the prices of a market with 1 tweet.
Oil and gas aren't going anywhere for decades. It's monumentally stupid to pretend the country is ready for EVs 30 years before it will be.
If Biden had allowed Keystone to continue, it would not be completed by now. It was only 8% completed under Trump. So it could not possibly be making a difference today.
Also, it is monumentally stupid to build new oil and gas infrastructure right now. Fossil fuels are being phased out in favor of cheaper alternatives.
True. The reason The Keystone Extension was shut down though was due to environmental impact..."unlawfully failed to evaluate threats to endangered species before issuing the permit."
Had it been completed at any time in the future, it would not have affected the price of gas for reasons I mentioned in an earlier post.
Of course it would have... lol.
Put your little thinking cap on for a moment.
If increasing supply of a commodity doesn't impact price why is Biden begging OPEC to increase production?
I cannot wait to see the LR libidiots melt down on election night 2022 & again in 2024- agip will somehow spin it as being great for the democrat party.
Lets go Brandon!
#FJB
Ha! What BS. 1 in 5 Democrats want Trump back in office? Um...no.
2022 will likely go to Republicans. Par for the course for mid-terms to swing that way. WAY too early to tell what will happen in 2024. The economy is everything...it even was in 2020. I think Trump still would have lost no matter how the economy was doing, but the recession at that time (Trump Recession) sealed it.
True. The reason The Keystone Extension was shut down though was due to environmental impact..."unlawfully failed to evaluate threats to endangered species before issuing the permit."
Had it been completed at any time in the future, it would not have affected the price of gas for reasons I mentioned in an earlier post.
Of course it would have... lol.
Put your little thinking cap on for a moment.
If increasing supply of a commodity doesn't impact price why is Biden begging OPEC to increase production?
You continue to show how dumb you are. As Fat Hurts mentioned to you, the pipeline wouldn't be completed by now anyway if it had been allowed to continue. Those tar sands are still being delivered...just not by pipeline, and they are refined and sent over seas to make cheap rubber and other petroleum-based products. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I cannot wait to see the LR libidiots melt down on election night 2022 & again in 2024- agip will somehow spin it as being great for the democrat party.
Lets go Brandon!
#FJB
Ha! What BS. 1 in 5 Democrats want Trump back in office? Um...no.
2022 will likely go to Republicans. Par for the course for mid-terms to swing that way. WAY too early to tell what will happen in 2024. The economy is everything...it even was in 2020. I think Trump still would have lost no matter how the economy was doing, but the recession at that time (Trump Recession) sealed it.
If the media doesn't completely squash the 100% true Hunter Biden story Trump wins in 2020 going away.
The idiots who blamed COVID on Trump weren't going to vote for him long before COVID even showed up.
It's hard to understate the significance of the Hunter Biden laptop story with regard to how it was buried by big tech and mainstream media to keep Donald Trump from a second term in the White House.
True. The reason The Keystone Extension was shut down though was due to environmental impact..."unlawfully failed to evaluate threats to endangered species before issuing the permit."
That would have only delayed it. It was shut down because of an executive order by Biden.
Obama delayed it by demanding environmental review after environmental review... It passed every time, eventually he gave up and just shut it down via executive order. It probably would have been done by now if he hadn't stalled it. Oh well.
Ha! What BS. 1 in 5 Democrats want Trump back in office? Um...no.
2022 will likely go to Republicans. Par for the course for mid-terms to swing that way. WAY too early to tell what will happen in 2024. The economy is everything...it even was in 2020. I think Trump still would have lost no matter how the economy was doing, but the recession at that time (Trump Recession) sealed it.
If the media doesn't completely squash the 100% true Hunter Biden story Trump wins in 2020 going away.
The idiots who blamed COVID on Trump weren't going to vote for him long before COVID even showed up.
If increasing supply of a commodity doesn't impact price why is Biden begging OPEC to increase production?
You continue to show how dumb you are. As Fat Hurts mentioned to you, the pipeline wouldn't be completed by now anyway if it had been allowed to continue. Those tar sands are still being delivered...just not by pipeline, and they are refined and sent over seas to make cheap rubber and other petroleum-based products. You have no idea what you're talking about.
You show your stupidity and lack of civility with every post.
Even the leftists at Politifact disagree with you.
"a 2014 report from the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service on railroad transportation of crude oil that said "railroad transport reportedly costs in the neighborhood of $10 to $15 per barrel compared with $5 per barrel for pipeline." That report also said the Keystone XL "could move a significant proportion" of crude oil shipments "off the rails, as pipeline transportation is likely to cost less per barrel."
You are literally wrong on every issue yet maintain your smugness. Hilarious. You're like a guy walking around a fancy dinner party with your nose in the air... but there's dog mess all over your face and everyone knows it but you.
True. The reason The Keystone Extension was shut down though was due to environmental impact..."unlawfully failed to evaluate threats to endangered species before issuing the permit."
That would have only delayed it. It was shut down because of an executive order by Biden.
Obama delayed it by demanding environmental review after environmental review... It passed every time, eventually he gave up and just shut it down via executive order. It probably would have been done by now if he hadn't stalled it. Oh well.
Not true. The Supreme Court nixed it in 2020 during Trump's presidency. Biden just didn't allow a permit that wouldn't have had any teeth anyway. Also, this pipeline extension wasn't going to deliver sweet crude. It was to deliver dirty tar sands. The tar sands are still being delivered...just not by pipeline. Now, you can make an argument about what is more efficient or bad for the environment, but you can't say that the completion and use of that pipeline would have had any positive effect on the price of oil or gas here in the US. It's a global market. That pipeline extension would have been such a TINY bit of the whole worldwide system of production and delivery.