Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Flagpole wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You're so blinded by partisanship you've lost sight of reality.

Pre-Covid the economy was booming. Even if it was booming today no one would be able to tell because Biden has inflation in double digits.

No one believes the spin you're trying to sell.

65% of the country believes Biden has the country on the wrong track.

52% of the country dislikes Biden in even the friendliest of polls.

56% of the country thinks Biden is doing a bad job on the economy in even the friendliest of polls.

You're in denial.

You calling someone else blinded by partisanship is rich.

1) The economy was booming pre-Covid all the way back to March of 2009 when the boom began after The Great Recession that GWB handed off to Obama.

2) PART of the reason the US did so poorly with jobs, etc. during the pandemic was Trump's horrible handling of it, politicizing the virus.

3) PART of the reason the jobs came back so quickly is that Biden made it a priority (spent MONEY on it) to get shots in arms.

4) Inflation is NOT in double digits. The inflation is high enough for you to make that a point without lying about how bad it is. The Fed is going to be attacking this. Gas prices have already fallen from their highs. Are you going to credit Biden for the gas price drop? Are you going to credit Biden when inflation numbers begin to get better (because they will)?

5) What agip is doing there is NOT spin. It is reality. In many key indicators, the US economy is booming.

6) There are some economic headwinds. Some experts have predicted a recession in 2023. Fair enough. That is NOT the case right now though, and it may not happen. As a snapshot in time, the US economy is doing pretty well, even with the stupid drag on it from the war in Ukraine. Unemployment is down, wages are up, supply chain issues are still present, but that has improved.

7) The mid-term elections will go to Republicans, unless there is a big event that keeps that from happening. That's how mid-terms go...people vote away from the party in the White House. You've already said that election will be "glorious." Simpletons think that way. Whatever the vote in November, it's just how things typically go. It's not a rebuke of Biden. Tell that to other 2-term Presidents whose party did poorly in the mid-term elections. GWB was one of the rare exceptions, but his party's popularity went up due to 9/11.

8) You are very ill-informed on all things political. The discussions that go on in this thread are above your intellect and knowledge. You believe conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact. You would be better off finding another subject to discuss. This is not for you.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

You calling someone else blinded by partisanship is rich.

1) The economy was booming pre-Covid all the way back to March of 2009 when the boom began after The Great Recession that GWB handed off to Obama.

2) PART of the reason the US did so poorly with jobs, etc. during the pandemic was Trump's horrible handling of it, politicizing the virus.

3) PART of the reason the jobs came back so quickly is that Biden made it a priority (spent MONEY on it) to get shots in arms.

4) Inflation is NOT in double digits. The inflation is high enough for you to make that a point without lying about how bad it is. The Fed is going to be attacking this. Gas prices have already fallen from their highs. Are you going to credit Biden for the gas price drop? Are you going to credit Biden when inflation numbers begin to get better (because they will)?

5) What agip is doing there is NOT spin. It is reality. In many key indicators, the US economy is booming.

6) There are some economic headwinds. Some experts have predicted a recession in 2023. Fair enough. That is NOT the case right now though, and it may not happen. As a snapshot in time, the US economy is doing pretty well, even with the stupid drag on it from the war in Ukraine. Unemployment is down, wages are up, supply chain issues are still present, but that has improved.

7) The mid-term elections will go to Republicans, unless there is a big event that keeps that from happening. That's how mid-terms go...people vote away from the party in the White House. You've already said that election will be "glorious." Simpletons think that way. Whatever the vote in November, it's just how things typically go. It's not a rebuke of Biden. Tell that to other 2-term Presidents whose party did poorly in the mid-term elections. GWB was one of the rare exceptions, but his party's popularity went up due to 9/11.

8) You are very ill-informed on all things political. The discussions that go on in this thread are above your intellect and knowledge. You believe conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact. You would be better off finding another subject to discuss. This is not for you.

I can attack all but will focus on Numero 4. You say the Fed is going to be addressing the 40-year high in inflation. WHEN are they going to be addressing this? A year ago Biden said the high inflation was going to be temporary but a year later the inflation is at 40-year highs and keep skyrocketing upwards. When is Biden going to do anything about these 40-year highs in inflation? Every time I go to Kroger or HEB the prices continue to go through the roof. What had Biden to help out us poor citizens??? And gas prices. They were like $2.20 when Trump left office. I am not giving Biden credit for anything with gas prices. They have more than doubled under him. He blames everything on Putin but everything went south prior to invastion of Ukraine. Things went south when Biden became president. He has ruined everything.

Flagpole wrote:

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

I can attack all but will focus on Numero 4. You say the Fed is going to be addressing the 40-year high in inflation. WHEN are they going to be addressing this? A year ago Biden said the high inflation was going to be temporary but a year later the inflation is at 40-year highs and keep skyrocketing upwards. When is Biden going to do anything about these 40-year highs in inflation? Every time I go to Kroger or HEB the prices continue to go through the roof. What had Biden to help out us poor citizens??? And gas prices. They were like $2.20 when Trump left office. I am not giving Biden credit for anything with gas prices. They have more than doubled under him. He blames everything on Putin but everything went south prior to invastion of Ukraine. Things went south when Biden became president. He has ruined everything.

SOME fair questions and points (mostly not though).

1) What Biden said is true...the high inflation will be temporary. Easy to say. Impossible to argue. High inflation is ALWAYS temporary. Temporary is relative. Kind of a non-committal comment from Biden. Meh.

2) The Fed has announced it is going to aggressively raise rates. I am not privy to the exact time table.

3) You are off the rails with the gas prices thing though, brother. When we had lower gas prices under Trump, we were in a recession and in the fire of the pandemic. A recession alone will cause gas prices to drop, but when you add in that very rare pandemic that greatly affected demand, that explains the lower gas prices. So, if you'd like another recession or another raging pandemic, we can have lower gas prices.

4) Biden has "ruined everything?" Well, that's nonsense and not even worthy of a response other than to tell you that's nonsense.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

SOME fair questions and points (mostly not though).

1) What Biden said is true...the high inflation will be temporary. Easy to say. Impossible to argue. High inflation is ALWAYS temporary. Temporary is relative. Kind of a non-committal comment from Biden. Meh.

2) The Fed has announced it is going to aggressively raise rates. I am not privy to the exact time table.

3) You are off the rails with the gas prices thing though, brother. When we had lower gas prices under Trump, we were in a recession and in the fire of the pandemic. A recession alone will cause gas prices to drop, but when you add in that very rare pandemic that greatly affected demand, that explains the lower gas prices. So, if you'd like another recession or another raging pandemic, we can have lower gas prices.

4) Biden has "ruined everything?" Well, that's nonsense and not even worthy of a response other than to tell you that's nonsense.

I will say thank you for the honest effort in answering my queries/concerns.

Hardloper wrote:

agip wrote:

the state ranked 43rd of 50 on K-12 education is...cutting taxes.

Once again, Republicans doing what they do: Hand money to rich people and believe that will help everyone. it's like a joke how blind they are to reality. Of course the richer states are rich partly because they spend on K-12 education. Not Mississippi. They are poor and will spend less on K-12. To make rich people richer I guess. Yo, confederacy! Try emulating the rich blue states, not the poor third world!

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WMC) - The largest tax cut in the Magnolia State’s history. Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves is scheduled to sign a bill Tuesday that would phase in more than $500 million in tax cuts over the next four years.

People have been moving from blue states to Tennessee in droves and the economy is booming. That means the state has budget surpluses and can afford to cut taxes. Try not to sound too jealous!

BTW the state ranked 43rd in K-12 education on the list I just looked up is actually California

agip wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

If the kids don't have parents telling them to care they won't care.

Perhaps incentivizing broken homes wasn't a great idea.

once again, your theory comes up against a brick wall of reality. Red states usually have higher divorce rates than blue states, but you go and believe your nonsense. the real problem is poverty, and red states are simply poorer than blue states, which makes marriage more difficult. The red states should emulate their more educated, richer blue state fellow Americans.

It may seem counterintuitive, but divorce rates are higher in religiously conservative "red" states than "blue" states, despite a Bible-based culture that discourages divorce.
In a new study titled "Red States, Blue States, and Divorce: Understanding the Impact of Conservative Protestantism on Regional Variation in Divorce Rates," which will be published later this month in the American Journal of Sociology, demographer and University of Texas at Austin professor Jennifer Glass set out to discover why divorce rates would be higher in religious states like Arkansas and Alabama -- which boast the second and third highest divorce rates, respectively -- but lower in more liberal states like New Jersey and Massachusetts.

Link:mtlawoffice.com/news/divorce-rates-red...

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

agip wrote:

once again, your theory comes up against a brick wall of reality. Red states usually have higher divorce rates than blue states, but you go and believe your nonsense. the real problem is poverty, and red states are simply poorer than blue states, which makes marriage more difficult. The red states should emulate their more educated, richer blue state fellow Americans.

It may seem counterintuitive, but divorce rates are higher in religiously conservative "red" states than "blue" states, despite a Bible-based culture that discourages divorce.
In a new study titled "Red States, Blue States, and Divorce: Understanding the Impact of Conservative Protestantism on Regional Variation in Divorce Rates," which will be published later this month in the American Journal of Sociology, demographer and University of Texas at Austin professor Jennifer Glass set out to discover why divorce rates would be higher in religious states like Arkansas and Alabama -- which boast the second and third highest divorce rates, respectively -- but lower in more liberal states like New Jersey and Massachusetts.

Link:mtlawoffice.com/news/divorce-rates-red...

It is pathological stupidity to continually compare blue states and red states on metrics like this as if they are homogeneous. Almost HALF of the people in blue states are "red" and almost HALF of the people red states are blue.

Divorce rates are a tiny bit of the picture. You're counting divorced women and ignoring all the women who have multiple kids with multiple men and never got married.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

agip wrote:

once again, your theory comes up against a brick wall of reality. Red states usually have higher divorce rates than blue states, but you go and believe your nonsense. the real problem is poverty, and red states are simply poorer than blue states, which makes marriage more difficult. The red states should emulate their more educated, richer blue state fellow Americans.

It may seem counterintuitive, but divorce rates are higher in religiously conservative "red" states than "blue" states, despite a Bible-based culture that discourages divorce.
In a new study titled "Red States, Blue States, and Divorce: Understanding the Impact of Conservative Protestantism on Regional Variation in Divorce Rates," which will be published later this month in the American Journal of Sociology, demographer and University of Texas at Austin professor Jennifer Glass set out to discover why divorce rates would be higher in religious states like Arkansas and Alabama -- which boast the second and third highest divorce rates, respectively -- but lower in more liberal states like New Jersey and Massachusetts.

Link:mtlawoffice.com/news/divorce-rates-red...

It is pathological stupidity to continually compare blue states and red states on metrics like this as if they are homogeneous. Almost HALF of the people in blue states are "red" and almost HALF of the people red states are blue.

Divorce rates are a tiny bit of the picture. You're counting divorced women and ignoring all the women who have multiple kids with multiple men and never got married.