Yes, you did say that the bodies were fake and/or the satellite images were fake. This isn't Russia, and double-speak doesn't pass for analysis. When you type a rhetorical question like "Why did they keep these pictures in a drawer for more than 20 days, before publishing them?" and then double down with "pretty odd that it took 3 weeks for those images to emerge" and then follow up saying that the NY Times has tried to pass fake satellite images in the past, you are absolutely stating your position that the bodies and/or the satellites are fake. That's how English-speaking adults will understand what you typed.
Your rhetorical question was stupid, lame, and deserving of insult because a perfectly reasonable answer was easily provided for it. You need further classes in the use and drafting of rhetorical questions.
Your stupid comment about "pretty odd that it took 3 weeks for those images to emerge" was previously explained to you, above. It sailed over your head, and now you look like more of a troll.
My insults were fine, fitting, and you deserved them all. You and your sh!thole countrymen /comrades well deserve all the scorn, derision and insults that are coming your way for the next few decades.
Man, how can you lie so blatantly? You quote my post, you bold some words in it, than like it was nothing, you claim that I have said something completely different. This is unbelievable.
You combine two different posts, two different statements, I wrote in regard to two different claims.
You must be really stupid.
My first statement was in a form of a question - Why did they keep it ...
When you say "it was explained to me", what exactly you take for explanation? A post on LR forum by you, or some other blood thirsty lunatic. Your stupid guess is just as good as anybodies. It is not explanation, not a valid one, though it could be correct after all, no matter how unlikely. Something may look reasonable, but still be completely wrong. Can you understand that simple truth?
Further, you based "explanation" on assumption (unlikely to be correct) that NY Times did not previously ask for satelite imagery, and even if they had it looked at, they did not spot dead bodies because they were looking for something else. Effectively, you called upon NYT authority to substantiate claim about authenticity of images, although nobody disputed it.
Only extremely stupid person would do something like that.
On your nonsense I responded with explanation of why proposed "explanation" is improbable, although not necessarily wrong. I should have guessed that your brain is too undeveloped your to comprehend. Now I know it is.
I mention credibility of NYT only to remind you that you should call on known liars as support for credibility of claims in matters they were proven not to be credible. If you think that fact, NYT not being credible in matters involving satelite imagery to justify going into war, indirectly questions validity of imagery currently in question, it is your problem.
You have no idea what my country is and who my "comrades" are. Feel free to crawl back to your shed, continue mating in family, it would not be fair your offsprings to be any smarter than you are.
Total gibberish.
You asked a stupidly put together rhetorical question, I gave you the simple answer (you can find it above), and you continued to pretend there is some creepy conspiracy regarding the timing of the satellite photos.
That got pointed out to you, and you came back with the gibberish above. And believe me, in context, it is gibberish.
This Scott Ritter fellow seems like a good man. I'll be sure to buy him a beer if I ever get the chance. Again, despite your claims to the contrary, RUSSIA CHOSE THIS PATH and has nobody to blame but themselves.
This seems like a good time to point out that former US arms inspector Scott Ritter went on to be convicted of trying to rape children and served time in prison for it before his career at Russia Today and is literally on the Russian payroll. Interesting choice of sources by C9.
Much like James Traficante, he exposed the Israel Firsters running our foreign policy and so was railroaded into prison on trumped up charges. Like Julian Assange and Snowden and many, many others.
And of course Ritter is not on the Russian payroll. What kind of child believes that?
Sorry I said past. I agree with you. You are 100% correct.
If people are killing people elsewhere it makes it right for Russians to kill right now.
I have an original thought my friend Carmine.
Because the US is killing people and Russia is killing people it is ok for an invading force to come to our neighborhood and kill us and our families us don’t you think?
I want to get your opinion on this because you are so much smarter than all of these idiots here.
How do you go from my pointing out the massive and endless killing USA/Israel is engaging in to you claiming I support killing families?
This seems like a good time to point out that former US arms inspector Scott Ritter went on to be convicted of trying to rape children and served time in prison for it before his career at Russia Today and is literally on the Russian payroll. Interesting choice of sources by C9.
Painting another poster as recommending murder and having perverted attraction to the Holocaust.
No facts or argument, just aspersion.
Carmine is a Holocaust denying nazi. His long posting history on this site is the "facts" and "argument". He tries to moderate to avoid deletion/banning but he occasionally goes full Goebbels in his posts.
The fact that you seem to think you're being honorable by defending war criminals and scumbags is telling. I guess everyone really is s hero in their own story.
Having been called out for outrageous libel, the response is to double down and slather a second coat.
Then additionally attack the person noting lack of civility and AUP violation as someone who thinks it is honorable to defend war criminals and scumbags.
Russians tortured and raped children. Then mutilated the body and left them to starving dogs. Putin lovers will still defend Russia about what is undefensible.
The article does not mention torture and rape of children.
Not every body in Bucha is a non-combatant, or was caused by Russians, or is even Ukrainian.
Bucha was a terrible battlezone, and was held by the Russian side for most of March.
However 3700 inhabitants of Bucha remained behind and the Ukraine side routinely shelled Bucha for a month. That must have caused damage and civilian casualties.
But judging from the sheer numbers and condition of bodies, and from reliable reports, it seems certain some Russian Soldiers are guilty of war crimes and extra-judicial executions.
Anyone conducting or ordering torture or execution should be tracked down and held accountable.
On that we should all agree.
Except Zelenskyy, perhaps.
When asked a few days ago about video of the Azov Battalion torturing prisoners, his response was "They are what they are. They were defending our country."
So we're OK with it, as long as we're the ones doing it?
Because the US is killing people and Russia is killing people it is ok for an invading force to come to our neighborhood and kill us and our families us don’t you think?
I want to get your opinion on this because you are so much smarter than all of these idiots here.
How do you go from my pointing out the massive and endless killing USA/Israel is engaging in to you claiming I support killing families?
Love to have you connect the dots on that one
But that is all you talk about here. I’m confused. Is this the US / Israel thread?
The article does not mention torture and rape of children.
The article DOES mention: "Men, women and children were seen handcuffed in the head and chest by bullets – their bodies strewn across the streets and thrown into the sewers." And, "Women and children have been found, [by Ukrainian soldiers] raped and then murdered."
WARNING: DISTRESSING CONTENT: Russian soldiers have been accused of raping women and children and shooting civilians in the town of Bucha, which has been devastated by fighting
As residents attempt to pick up pieces of their devastated city after Russia’s retreat, they tell Kim Sengupta of witnessing atrocities worse than ‘anyone could even imagine’
Having been called out for outrageous libel, the response is to double down and slather a second coat.
Then additionally attack the person noting lack of civility and AUP violation as someone who thinks it is honorable to defend war criminals and scumbags.
Look at you, getting all lawyerly in the defense of Putin and friends. AUP violations, huh?
Truth is an absolute defense to libel claims, because one of the elements that must be proven in a defamation suit is falsity of the statement. If a statement is true, it cannot be false, and therefore, there is no prima facie case of defamation.
When asked a few days ago about video of the Azov Battalion torturing prisoners, his response was "They are what they are. They were defending our country."
So we're OK with it, as long as we're the ones doing it?
Are we okay with it? No. Can we understand it? Yes. If Russians don’t want to be victims of war crimes, they have the option of NOT INVADING ANOTHER COUNTRY. Ukrainians were not given that choice.
You asked a stupidly put together rhetorical question, I gave you the simple answer (you can find it above), and you continued to pretend there is some creepy conspiracy regarding the timing of the satellite photos.
That got pointed out to you, and you came back with the gibberish above. And believe me, in context, it is gibberish.
You are self righteously inventing and projecting. Your starting point is that your "explanations" are correct and not to be questioned, let alone disputed. You have to understand that while your "explanations" are not impossible, there are other possibile explanations. They can be less, equally, or more likely to be true. Those explanations could confirm what is proposed and promoted by anti Russian coalition, or could be favourable for Russian side.
Better explanation you could use would be: due poor resolution they could not be sure those were bodies on images from satelite.
But then there are many questions to be answered. Who, when, why, ....
Basic problem, IMO, is that 3 weeks are pretty long period for scenery to remain unchanged. Were some troops passing by, vehicles, animals ... There is difference in treatment of those bodies compared to some other bodies. Buried, not buried, exhumated?They are dead, supposedly killed, even executed, but vast majority around them was not. Why them? Are they locals? Where are their families, relatives? Why there in that street? Were they going somewhere, just hanging around ...? Who did it? Russian army, paramilitary, some looting gang, stayed rocket ...?
It is not so easy. Russians are barbarian is not satisfactory answer. Each individual crime has perpetrator.
