"Basically what Gore did" ha ha ha ha. Stop it already. I’m seriously laughing so hard I can barely type. You’re hilarious. I hope you realize how much we appreciate that about you.
And you started before that leader with Russian Collusion. this didn’t just happen in the last few months
There was every reason to suspect "Russian Collusion." Google Paul Manafort. Remember those "Conspiracy against the United States" charges and subsequent guilty plea?
And don't forget this gem (source: PBS): "In January (2019), Manafort’s defense attorneys accidentally unsealed court documents that revealed he had shared Trump campaign polling data with a business associate with Russian ties. The revelation could support possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, the issue at the center of Mueller’s special counsel investigation. But Manafort’s trials have so far not offered a definitive answer to questions about collusion, including what happened at the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer promising damaging information on Hillary Clinton."
Even Barr, while serving as AG, wrote that “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Plus, a bipartisan Senate committee did conclude that Russia interfered in the election with the goal of helping the Trump campaign and hurting the Clinton campaign.
This is all public information. And collusion, or conspiracy, is VERY difficult to prove.
Noyankee’s logic on various types of malfeasance and the definition of communism …
all llamas have hair.
ferrets have hair.
therefore ferrets are llamas.
His logic on other points is better or worse at times, but the baseline is instructive.
All communists eliminate the vote.
Democrats, after 6 nauseating years of trying, have now eliminated the vote.
therefore, democrats are now communists.
If logicians were to put their heads together and identify a fallacy of the undistributed middle, they could instruct others to recognize such egregious errors and in turn prevent a whole heckuva lot of weak reasoning. If only …
Noyankee’s logic on various types of malfeasance and the definition of communism …
all llamas have hair.
ferrets have hair.
therefore ferrets are llamas.
His logic on other points is better or worse at times, but the baseline is instructive.
Liberal logic is much worse.
all llamas have hair.
ferrets have hair.
therefore Trump is racist.
Try
A high percentage of those unwilling to disavow David Duke are racist.
Think of those who, upon seeing supporters chanting “the J**s will not replace us,” fail to condemn such acts. A high percentage are racist.
And many other things (prospective tenant investigations, CP5, etc.). But this still doesn’t descend to the level of indicating that he’s a racist according to the standards of deductive logic.
I’m comfortable looking at all that and considering it to be items to take into consideration as part of the overall picture. Some Liberals will err and think his history automatically and irrefutably postions him as a racist.
I, however, never suggested the general premise that no Liberals are as bad at thinking as you are.
And you started before that leader with Russian Collusion. this didn’t just happen in the last few months
There was every reason to suspect "Russian Collusion."
I know you’re using “every reason” colloquially, but I’ll qualify it as “sufficient reason” (to suspect, investigate, etc. If not to indict, convict).
we could parse a lot of words and examine a lot of data, but who likes the eye test as a way of supplementing evidence and making it recognizable.
Picture a dude like Trump looming over HRC to boorishly make his presence felt in a debate.
Picture him pushing his way past the PM of Montenegro at a summit of world leaders in a ham-fisted way f trying to look like an alpha by picking on (in world powercterms) the one of the smallest guys in the room.
Now look at him side by side with Putin. His deferential demeanor juxtaposed with Putin8s self-satisfied smirk proves nothing, but those who don’t consider that incongruity worthy of some pause are kidding themselves.
right, we had 2 votes and the rubber match is in Nov, unless you guys can find a way to avoid it, Not sure what you are talking about with Trump but my guess is that he had advice that the election was going to be contested. i doubt he was running the internet tabulations that were online. do you think he was? or just taking advice of his counsel, which never used to be a crime, but somehow you found a way. i see al gore is still walking the streets after he contested the vote about 1000 times in Florida. its the people carrying flags of support that scares you, isn't it? get used to it sis
now, if trump wouldve been running the live internet tabulations of votes, u might have something but to tell his supporters to go protest peacefully, and then contest the case in civil court never used to be criminal, but you guys are a new breed of losers in America. never been done here.
Breaking laws (read the indictment) was still a crime in 2020 and continues to be in 2023. Your post is just incoherent diarrhea.
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Noyankee’s logic on various types of malfeasance and the definition of communism …
all llamas have hair.
ferrets have hair.
therefore ferrets are llamas.
His logic on other points is better or worse at times, but the baseline is instructive.
All communists eliminate the vote.
Democrats, after 6 nauseating years of trying, have now eliminated the vote.
therefore, democrats are now communists.
I think you'd do well to study the fate of would-be challengers to power in authoritarian regimes like Stalinist Russia. Mere potential challengers to power got show trials, followed by immediate execution. Actual challengers to power-- failed coup-makers--, of whom there would have been very few, got summary execution.
Trump, a failed political challenger to US constitutional authority, is getting exactly the treatment one would expect in a country like the US-- and, better, in fact, than many people on the left throughout US history got for their trouble.
Trump walks freely among us, his right to speak on matters unrelated to details of the legal cases against him unrestricted, and his legal defense team permitted to negotiate on matters related to his cases, such as trial dates, without interference.
The best defense anyone could make of Trump is that he was, at all times, just doing politics, but in a way he thought was required, given the unscrupulousness of his opponents. And if this is true, then he is simply a political loser. His gambit failed and his unscrupulous enemies have won. And in failing, he has given his opponent more than they need to remove him from the scene, all without troubling the rule of law as it's clearly written. Unlike in Stalinist Russian, or anywhere like it, they can easily afford him the same due process as any other citizen. His failure was THAT bad.
If Trump were in jail right now and facing an imminent execution date, your "communism" talk would be proportional. As it is, he still has all of his rights and you still have your vote. You just might want to consider getting together with your friends and using it to elect another member of your still legal party.
There was every reason to suspect "Russian Collusion."
I know you’re using “every reason” colloquially, but I’ll qualify it as “sufficient reason” (to suspect, investigate, etc. If not to indict, convict).
we could parse a lot of words and examine a lot of data, but who likes the eye test as a way of supplementing evidence and making it recognizable.
Picture a dude like Trump looming over HRC to boorishly make his presence felt in a debate.
Picture him pushing his way past the PM of Montenegro at a summit of world leaders in a ham-fisted way f trying to look like an alpha by picking on (in world powercterms) the one of the smallest guys in the room.
Now look at him side by side with Putin. His deferential demeanor juxtaposed with Putin8s self-satisfied smirk proves nothing, but those who don’t consider that incongruity worthy of some pause are kidding themselves.
Democrats, after 6 nauseating years of trying, have now eliminated the vote.
therefore, democrats are now communists.
I think you'd do well to study the fate of would-be challengers to power in authoritarian regimes like Stalinist Russia. Mere potential challengers to power got show trials, followed by immediate execution. Actual challengers to power-- failed coup-makers--, of whom there would have been very few, got summary execution.
Trump, a failed political challenger to US constitutional authority, is getting exactly the treatment one would expect in a country like the US-- and, better, in fact, than many people on the left throughout US history got for their trouble.
Trump walks freely among us, his right to speak on matters unrelated to details of the legal cases against him unrestricted, and his legal defense team permitted to negotiate on matters related to his cases, such as trial dates, without interference.
The best defense anyone could make of Trump is that he was, at all times, just doing politics, but in a way he thought was required, given the unscrupulousness of his opponents. And if this is true, then he is simply a political loser. His gambit failed and his unscrupulous enemies have won. And in failing, he has given his opponent more than they need to remove him from the scene, all without troubling the rule of law as it's clearly written. Unlike in Stalinist Russian, or anywhere like it, they can easily afford him the same due process as any other citizen. His failure was THAT bad.
If Trump were in jail right now and facing an imminent execution date, your "communism" talk would be proportional. As it is, he still has all of his rights and you still have your vote. You just might want to consider getting together with your friends and using it to elect another member of your still legal party.
Gore was an idiot. He had the electoral certificates right in his fat little hands. All he had to do was count the ones he believed were legitimate and he would have been president of the US for eight years. There would have been no Iraq war, no neo-cons, no Patriot Act, etc. But no, Gore just flubbed it through ignorance of the Constitution he swore to protect.
whatever, its all talk at this point. One party in America put the others party leader in chains, in case you missed it. for doing basically what gore did. who knows what gore was doing behind the scenes because one side didnt care to arrest him. he can still run to this day if he wishes. you cnat even make an argument that he didnt contest the vote, but he was not up against communists, and we never will be. your man bribery joe could sign a contract with china and we would still let him run because he is your leader. you love him, and we respect that.
this move, putting the other guy in chains is a line crosser. you freaks dont even understand what Communism is, but you live it. was the same for Stalin and his people. you can still find those in russia who would argue that that wasn't Communism. you are no different.
Challenging Q for you - if trump ever committed a crime would you spot it?
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NEW: The lack of payments to Giuliani, John Eastman and Sidney Powell for their post 2020 election work could be an ominous sign if any of Trump's co-defendants listed on the latest indictment think they're going to see much legal help from Trump's PAC.
if any of these other indicted Trumpers planned on loyalty from Trump they will quickly be learning the lesson of ETTD!
Giuliani and Eastman pled the Fifth (i.e., guilty) earlier, so they are of no help to Trump at all anymore, and he has no incentive to ever pay them. They were being idiots - if you are going to represent someone with a history like Trump, you get an up-front retainer of at least $100k that Trump is required to "re-fill" when it hits some minimum draw-down balance, or else you withdraw further representation.
The REAL sad (and yet still funny) attorney-got-boned story is Kenneth Chesebro who admitted he wrote all the fake elector memos pro fvcking bono! The poor guy threw away his legal career (and probably his freedom for 2-5 years) for an AGREED payment of $0.00 (zero dot zero zero). My god what a sad fool.
These lawyers and other morons who fell on the sword for Trump for free, or perhaps thinking they would later profit, are profoundly stupid. And to think there were so many others in line who would happily do the same, but were lucky not to have had the chance to be involved.