Like I said previously, it was a 20-minute conversation 11 years ago, so I really haven't thought too much about it and I don't think it's as central to the discussion at hand as it's become. I mentioned it simply because when I talked to the AD about being uncomfortable wearing the buns he said that I had a nice body for it, and I just wanted to underscore the point that a person's body type isn't necessarily related to their willingness to wear buns, that's all.
It was a 20 minute conversation that I a) can't remember verbatim and b) wouldn't transcribe verbatim here even if I could remember it, but the gist was I had a good body and I wasn't fat. I do remember him saying that he could understand where I was coming from if I was fat, but I wasn't, so he wasn't sure what the problem was. Plus 20 other minutes of talking.
Again, it's kind of an aside to the discussion now, but overall, a conversation focusing on how your body in various clothes looks to meet spectators is not one that anybody should be having with a 14-year-old athlete, whether it's the AD or me--a 25-year-old female high school coach. It's important to recognize that how you interpret these conversations when you're 14 is much different than how you interpret them as an adult; my reaction to the exact same conversation wouldn't be the same now as it was then, but it was extremely uncomfortable then.
less talk more bun huggers.
another average american wrote:
Like I said previously, it was a 20-minute conversation 11 years ago, so I really haven't thought too much about it and I don't think it's as central to the discussion at hand as it's become. I mentioned it simply because when I talked to the AD about being uncomfortable wearing the buns he said that I had a nice body for it, and I just wanted to underscore the point that a person's body type isn't necessarily related to their willingness to wear buns, that's all.
It was a 20 minute conversation that I a) can't remember verbatim and b) wouldn't transcribe verbatim here even if I could remember it, but the gist was I had a good body and I wasn't fat. I do remember him saying that he could understand where I was coming from if I was fat, but I wasn't, so he wasn't sure what the problem was. Plus 20 other minutes of talking.
Again, it's kind of an aside to the discussion now, but overall, a conversation focusing on how your body in various clothes looks to meet spectators is not one that anybody should be having with a 14-year-old athlete, whether it's the AD or me--a 25-year-old female high school coach. It's important to recognize that how you interpret these conversations when you're 14 is much different than how you interpret them as an adult; my reaction to the exact same conversation wouldn't be the same now as it was then, but it was extremely uncomfortable then.
Stop being so uptight that you have to keep changing your story again and again.
looney alert wrote:
Wow, you know how I know you're crazy?
Yep. Crazy enough to sue you and your bun hugging sympathizers.
I don't see how I'm changing my story; people keep saying "well he didn't say x" when he actually did, so I added more details. There are plenty more I could add but they are all kind of tangential to the point I was making and detract from the thread, so I'll stop now. Not uptight, just trying to clarify :)
irate parent wrote:
looney alert wrote:Wow, you know how I know you're crazy?
Yep. Crazy enough to sue you and your bun hugging sympathizers.
Sue us? Thanks for proving my point.
gotta love the buns wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsuv8lVGdBIThe reaction is hilarious...A woman in the stands starts giggling, and going OH MY! when a 17 year old Jordan Hasay steps onto the Track wearing Bun Huggers while all the other girls are in shorts.
I also like how the person filming it zooms in on her bun hugging azz for a good 3-4 seconds.
Bigger than Ben Johnson wrote:
Well if you insist...
http://www.teamrunla.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/271903_2162993242041_1462904804_32435958_7852767_o.jpghttp://www.letsrun.com/photos/2013/carlsbad2013/images/Padilla_GraceS-Carlsbad13.JPG
Hooray sir! Hooray!
What I'm getting from this thread is the thought that AAA undoubtedly would look great in buns and Cate would look pretty scary in them.
Retro bun huggers...
Get outta here! Is that real? Hysterical!
How many posts in this thread are from LA fanboy and all-around pervert Randy Miyazaki?
I'm guessing at least 80%. He has well known obsessions with Hasay, bunhuggers, and volleyball, all of which are strong themes in this thread.
gotta love the buns wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsuv8lVGdBIThe reaction is hilarious...A woman in the stands starts giggling, and going OH MY! when a 17 year old Jordan Hasay steps onto the Track wearing Bun Huggers while all the other girls are in shorts.
Jordan was the only one of, what, 10 runners who wore bun huggers in that race. And she won, by a huge margin - despite that enormous mane of hair that surely cost her a couple of seconds. Just sayin'.
And again, guys aren't only wearing their underwear to race in, so why has that become the standard for women? I'm totally not one of those raging feminists (I'm actually pretty girly) but it's a complete double standard, and one I'm not going to endorse.[/quote]
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I like your point, but the raging feminist is a straw man that is too often used on these boards to discredit arguments against inequality. I know the word feminist has a lot of negative baggage, but most of it is based on reactionary misconceptions of feminism.
Feminism is not a "rage" against men. In fact, it is patriarchy, rather than feminism that treats men like uncontrollable savages. Feminism in its best forms would argue that all of us should be able to wear whatever the hell we want, regardless of gender.
is it just me or does it seem like the girls now a days have far more revealing school clothes. Seems to me that the boy cut shorts are longer and more concealing than what they wore to school.
If you want your girls team to wear buns- just tell them they can't because they are too sexy. You will have whole team wearing them in a week
Cate wrote:
Jordan was the only one of, what, 10 runners who wore bun huggers in that race. And she won, by a huge margin - despite that enormous mane of hair that surely cost her a couple of seconds. Just sayin'.
How did her hair surely cost her a couple of seconds?
Anybody have that 2004 Ithaca Women's Cross Country photo where they were just wearing their bib numbers?
?? wrote:Feminism in its best forms would argue that all of us should be able to wear whatever the hell we want, regardless of gender.
Right, and I'm not seeing any coaches providing "bun huggers" as an option for their male athletes. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, so to speak. Hell, maybe the coaches themselves should be wearing bun huggers to sporting events given that they are so comfortable and all.
Yea, I thought so.
