Absolutely not. She impeded herself. And seemingly gave up. No fight. If she's on another level than everyone else she should have at least put up a fight. And when she rebuffed Allie Wilson's attempt to console that was disappointing. Not good sportsmanship.
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yolks wrote:
It's sad when certain circumstances arise, true jealousy and hate seeps through. Athing is a talent. She is a young lady who chooses herself and how she wants to experience her life without running being the sole reason she lives. Many of you have made sharp comments because she hasn't ran much this season. This woman is the REIGNING OLY Champion. She's clearly proven she can race over and over. I'm not contending she deserves a re-run, but it's always sad seeing people bash good talent when they come up short.
Exactly!
After reading the other posts on this thread I can see that a rerun is not in order. I was so stunned last night. I was prepared for Mu to potentially not make the team because of fitness. I could have accepted that and believed she was not in our top 3. But her being out because of a fall is so hard to accept. I get that it is fair. I get that the fall is technically on her. I am just having a hard time accepting that our only real chance at gold in the 800 is not on the US team. It still feels crazy.
I feel so bad for her. I can only imagine how difficult it must be to be her right now. Whatever your thoughts about her, she is still so young. She seems like such a genuinely sweet person and I just feel so bad for her to be out under these circumstances. I will be so interested to see how she proceeds from here. Will this fuel her Sha'carri style comeback? Will she come back mature and humble and running to her full potential? I hope so! Most of all, I hope she is okay today. I hope her family and support team are surrounding her with love and that she gets through this okay.
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They should re-run it if only for the 3 people behind Mu who got impeded and had to jump around the chaos like Sage Hurta Klecker. That race sucked for picking an Olympic squad. Basically only the top 4 were not impacted by the fall.
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No fan of Rojo (understatement), but have to give him props for a decent troll that was both obvious (even he is not THAT dumb) and yet it still worked anyway.
Thats a good troll effort - Pretty funny.
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I agree with you. Rojo calling for a rerun might be one of the most stupid things I've seen on this site(and there have been many stupid things). Honestly, I'm a little embarrassed for him.
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Trollminator wrote:
too late? wrote:
Can we re run the mens mile from indoor ncaas?
We just need to consider one thing... if this was any other 800 runner falling would anyone be considering rerunning it?
None of the other 800 runners are the reigning gold medalist. I think that is the sticking point.
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American Dream wrote:
Slo-Jo wrote:
The sad truth is that the United States is sending a team of mediocrity to the Olympic Games and leaving our star at home, our true chance at a gold medal. It is ridiculous and totally disgusting. Regardless of any personal feeling people have about Mu not competing, she is the reigning gold medalist in this event, and she is not going and we are instead sending people who are not going to be competitive. If those are the rules, they clearly need to be re-evaluated. Our selection system failed. She didn't not make it because she wasn't fast enough. She didn't move in on anyone either. It was a fluke that she fell and she is by far the best person to run the 800 against the current world field. Any other nation has a safeguard not to rule out their best talent. We are sending people who can't compete and leaving our gold medal star at home!!! That is CRAZY!
The current process, at least ideally, is a microcosm of the American Dream where anyone can persist and rise to the top. This is for the best despite occasional disappointments.
Correct and ALL athletes are fungible and need to keep earning their opportunities to represent the USA. With a good pipeline of talent and hardworking athletes we mostly send the best. We will never know how well Mu would have done and I frankly don't care right now as it's irrelevant. She didn't make it.
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Slo-Jo wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
We just need to consider one thing... if this was any other 800 runner falling would anyone be considering rerunning it?
None of the other 800 runners are the reigning gold medalist. I think that is the sticking point.
Sticking point to what? She could have been the reigning gold medalist, WC winner and WR holder and the same rule should be applied consistently. My only assumption is that she treated this trial seriously and thus proved she's currently not ready to deal with tactically challenging races. The best athletes are not just the fastest, they also need to be able to stay out of trouble and finish to have a chance at a medal.
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rojo wrote:
Re-Run the 800.
Update: Rojo doesn't beliefve the race should be re-run as he's now watched some replays. While he thinks it was an accident, Mu does maybe appear to be at fault if anyone was at fault.. But he's still fascinated that the rule book allows it and yet he's never seen it. HE's long said on the podcast he hopes to see it happen once before he dies.
ALl of that being said, I've rewatched the video now several times. No re-run should happen.
FYI. Here is the rule. Rule 163
. Any competitor or participant responsible for jostling, running across, or obstructing
another competitor or participant so as to impede his or her progress shall be liable
to disqualification in that event. The Referee shall have the authority to order the
race be re-held, excluding any disqualified competitor(s), for one, some or all
competitors seriously affected by jostling or obstruction or allow such competitors
to compete in a subsequent round of the race. Normally, such competitor(s) should
have completed the event with bona fide effort. The Referee shall also have the
authority to order the race be re-held or advance one, some or all competitors seriously
affected by jostling or obstruction that is unintentional or caused otherwise than by a
competitor if it is just and reasonable to do soAs Jon Gault said on the podcast, there wasn't anyone DQd, so is it still possible to re-run it?
Ahahaha, good luck with that buddy....
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vespy wrote:
yay marxism wrote:
She also has the worst tactics. And in a tactical race that matters a lot.
What? Since when is the 400 a tactical race? We were talking about Sydney running both the 400 and 400H.
My bad I thought this was about Athing My.
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Slo-Jo wrote:
NotPC wrote:
couldn't have happened to a better person..
So Mu, you don't like running, don't like track... the track god heard you LOUD and clear!
LOL
The sad truth is that the United States is sending a team of mediocrity to the Olympic Games and leaving our star at home, our true chance at a gold medal. It is ridiculous and totally disgusting. Regardless of any personal feeling people have about Mu not competing, she is the reigning gold medalist in this event, and she is not going and we are instead sending people who are not going to be competitive. If those are the rules, they clearly need to be re-evaluated. Our selection system failed. She didn't not make it because she wasn't fast enough. She didn't move in on anyone either. It was a fluke that she fell and she is by far the best person to run the 800 against the current world field. Any other nation has a safeguard not to rule out their best talent. We are sending people who can't compete and leaving our gold medal star at home!!! That is CRAZY!
I think would rather send 3 athletes who won't medal but won't ruin others chances of it then a terrible racer like Mu.
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Oh no, the wrong kid died
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She should have been entered in the 15 esp since she ran and won it last year! Why Bobby why did you not just do it as a formality?! Seeing her run the 15 after this would have been magic
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yay marxism wrote:
Slo-Jo wrote:
The sad truth is that the United States is sending a team of mediocrity to the Olympic Games and leaving our star at home, our true chance at a gold medal. It is ridiculous and totally disgusting. Regardless of any personal feeling people have about Mu not competing, she is the reigning gold medalist in this event, and she is not going and we are instead sending people who are not going to be competitive. If those are the rules, they clearly need to be re-evaluated. Our selection system failed. She didn't not make it because she wasn't fast enough. She didn't move in on anyone either. It was a fluke that she fell and she is by far the best person to run the 800 against the current world field. Any other nation has a safeguard not to rule out their best talent. We are sending people who can't compete and leaving our gold medal star at home!!! That is CRAZY!
I think would rather send 3 athletes who won't medal but won't ruin others chances of it then a terrible racer like Mu.
Correct and that is all we can gather from her performances at the trials as we have nothing else since last year. Either tactically inferior and/or not in great shape.
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lara_croft wrote:
She should have been entered in the 15 esp since she ran and won it last year! Why Bobby why did you not just do it as a formality?! Seeing her run the 15 after this would have been magic
"Hey Athing, just in case you trip and fall or you are out of shape, let's also sign you up for the 1500."
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You are all kidding yourselves if you think USOC will let a highly likely gold medal prospect in Paris fall through so easily. All because the process says XYZ. This is way above everyone's (including the top 3 gals'-congrats btw) hopes and dreams.
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waxonist wrote:
You are all kidding yourselves if you think USOC will let a highly likely gold medal prospect in Paris fall through so easily. All because the process says XYZ. This is way above everyone's (including the top 3 gals'-congrats btw) hopes and dreams.
When was the last time some crazy exception like that happened? Last I checked Sha-Carri didn't go to Tokyo for example. You'd be a fool if you bet on an exception being made.
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"She’s used to having the fitness and confidence to front run."
I'd like to see Mu and the LSU lady get in a pissing match about leading out an 800 and go through 400 in 55.
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RustyBootsHRG wrote:
rojo wrote:
Re-Run the 800.
Stop. You’re an idiot. Ryun fell in the same way.
Cautionary tale about starting your season at the Oly Trials. Fire Kersee.AND in the case of Ryun it was only in prelims and the rules stated that they could let him advance. But in a closed room the officials told him while that's what the rules say that we've never done that before so come back in 4 years.
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We need a totally different perspective here: the average citizen can't tell the difference between 1:53, 2:53 or 3:53 and watches races and sees the same thing over and over: someone wins, someone gets second,...
Why should I get excited about that and buy products? We need the extraordinary, like what happened here and it's a missed opportunity. I would have wanted to see Mu get up slowly, look around, then run a shortcut accross the field to emerge 10m ahead...
Imagine the entertainement value!
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