...do you seriously not understand the difference of proof burden between a civil trial, a criminal trial, SafeSport, and common knowledge? Or are you an idiot who is arguing in bad faith?
Actually, never mind, I know the answer to that.
So you are okay with his not getting a say?
Any chance Ms Goucher could be mistaken?
Lying?
No?
No chance Salazar is a jerk and she is now taking her revenge?
So why was he banned for life? Because people didn't like his haircut?
Good question. He was found guilty by SafeSport, and thereafter also in arbitration, and yes, he had lawyers and got to defend himself there both times. That is all public knowledge.
The saddest part is not really the trolls here but rather that Kara didn't come forward 10 - 15 years ago. That would have saved lots of athletes from that abuser.
Letsrun: She's a liar! She's an attention seeking W****! I don't believe her! She just wants money! She hates Salazar! It's her husband talking through her! Liar! LIAR!
Also Letsrun: She should have come forward 10-15 years ago. The well being of all other victims is on her selfish hands.
...do you seriously not understand the difference of proof burden between a civil trial, a criminal trial, SafeSport, and common knowledge? Or are you an idiot who is arguing in bad faith?
Actually, never mind, I know the answer to that.
So you are okay with his not getting a say?
Any chance Ms Goucher could be mistaken?
Lying?
No?
No chance Salazar is a jerk and she is now taking her revenge?
He DID get a say. SafeSport found his testimony not credible and banned him for life.
And now you're all bent up because now someone is talking about the thing he got banned for life for doing?
I don't understand how some of you get through the day without falling into a ditch.
...do you seriously not understand the difference of proof burden between a civil trial, a criminal trial, SafeSport, and common knowledge? Or are you an idiot who is arguing in bad faith?
Actually, never mind, I know the answer to that.
So you are okay with his not getting a say?
Any chance Ms Goucher could be mistaken?
Lying?
No?
No chance Salazar is a jerk and she is now taking her revenge?
Letsrun: She's a liar!She's an attention seeking W****! I don't believe her! She just wants money! She hates Salazar! It's her husband talking through her! Liar! LIAR!
I don’t hear people saying the stuff in bold. Saying I don’t believe her is expressing agnosticism, not belief that the opposite is true.
No chance Salazar is a jerk and she is now taking her revenge?
Who is stopping him from “having a say”?
He did issue a denial earlier, but anything he now says could be used against him. In criminal court. Not hard to understand. He is also not dumb enough to know that he’s not going to win the social media war against an attractive accomplished woman in this age.
He did issue a denial earlier, but anything he now says could be used against him. In criminal court. Not hard to understand. He is also not dumb enough to know that he’s not going to win the social media war against an attractive accomplished woman in this age.
He did issue a denial earlier, but anything he now says could be used against him. In criminal court. Not hard to understand. He is also not dumb enough to know that he’s not going to win the social media war against an attractive accomplished woman in this age.
Yes. He stated he did not do it to that Safesport Org.
No evidence a criminal trial is a possibility.
Why would his denying it hurt him at trial?
And if it could, why wouldn't his earlier denial hurt hiM?
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Point is nobody really knows what happened during that massage except maybe Kara and/or Alberto.
And they may not even have an accurate memory of it.
I make no judgement. I have no facts and so cannot make a judgement. Won't even guess.
Many people here accept her assertion without doubt and assume he is guilty. But they have no facts either.
It comes down to one Org believing her and not him while never explaining their decision. And no, saying she was credible and he was not is no explanation. They should be called upon to explain what about her claim was credible and his not.
That I neither accurate nor is it an answer for my question: “who is stopping him from having a say?”
The answer is: no one, as another newname pointed out for ya.
He had his say. It was ignored without explanation. Not sure what you are getting at
My point is that you were earlier claiming that he did not get a say. Now at least you are admitting that he did.
The SafeSport arbitration process has been described to you in detail before. I won't belabor the point again, considering it still hasn't gotten through.
That I neither accurate nor is it an answer for my question: “who is stopping him from having a say?”
The answer is: no one, as another newname pointed out for ya.
He had is say. It was ignored without explanation. Not sure what you are getting at
Were you there? How do you know it was "ignored without explanation"?
They found it not credible, which implies consideration of what he said. Just because they didn't buy whatever half-assed explanation he gave for why he, as a track coach under the well-funded auspices of Nike, felt it was necessary for he himself to give a massage to his athlete and not one of the many vastly more qualified and specialized assistants on his staff, that doesn't mean they didn't consider it. They just thought it was not credible.
Unless of course you're implying that the only way to assume they did consider it was to accept it wholesale as fact. But only an idiot arguing in bad faith would do that.
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