Nah. You’ve done plenty to establish yourself as a fundamentally unserious person with all your “commie” posts and a host of other drivel. You are correct that prosecuting a popular politician is a very serious matter with potentially disastrous consequences. If you had ever proceeded through an extended discussion in the manner of one earnestly trying to get at the facts and determine the best outcome on the basis of law and shared principles, I’d welcome more of that from you on this point.
Alas, you chose a different path.
Oh it’s very serious. if you believe for a fraction of a second that that isn’t the drumbeat of thought from the other side then you are a child. Doubt I just came up with that one. this play is directly from Communism political philosophy. where have you ever seen this move in an American Democracy? you most definitely align with Communists whether you want to own it or not. it is what it is. you hunted down the political opposition leader in a 2-party American Democracy and put that leader in chains, in order to control the general election. that’s exactly what you did. you can’t sugar coat that. That’s how your mind works. You were willing to cross the line from Democracy to Communism. that’s what defines the philosophy. Win at all costs.
You would think I’d be happier to have this much of your assistance in making one of my points, but I’m not.
From Eggers et al, “No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election”: “Lott’s claims … do not withstand scrutiny.”
Theirs is not the only peer-reviewed article rebutting Lott at length. You seem ready to reject any number of arguments out of hand based on possible ulterior motives of those advancing the arguments. But you’re not given pause by the fact that Lott served in the Trump administration? (Note: I’m not actually saying Lott is wrong for that reason, and I recognize doing so as a fallacy. I just think it should be clear to others that he didn’t approach the question as a neutral observer whose sole fidelity is to law and the fair conduct of elections. And it seems less than consistent of you to harp on the prospect of bias as eroding confidence … when you critique only one side for that).
This discussion is all about nothing.
The macro event is that, in America, we have never put the opposition leader in chains. this is a game changer that one side chose to support. we see who is on their side Nov 24’. This is the red line Obama spoke of.
End of story. that’s the news.
You want this to make sense historically but it is unprecedented. That is Trump's criminality and scuminess is unprecedented. Any similar situations the party in question would have rid themselves of the culprit -Nixon and to an extent Cankles for simply not being electable.
But the GOP has completely transformed itself to embrace and justify Trumps actions. Trump and his cult have crossed the uncrossable line not those holding him accountable.
NEW: The lack of payments to Giuliani, John Eastman and Sidney Powell for their post 2020 election work could be an ominous sign if any of Trump's co-defendants listed on the latest indictment think they're going to see much legal help from Trump's PAC.
if any of these other indicted Trumpers planned on loyalty from Trump they will quickly be learning the lesson of ETTD!
NEW: The lack of payments to Giuliani, John Eastman and Sidney Powell for their post 2020 election work could be an ominous sign if any of Trump's co-defendants listed on the latest indictment think they're going to see much legal help from Trump's PAC.
if any of these other indicted Trumpers planned on loyalty from Trump they will quickly be learning the lesson of ETTD!
Giuliani and Eastman pled the Fifth (i.e., guilty) earlier, so they are of no help to Trump at all anymore, and he has no incentive to ever pay them. They were being idiots - if you are going to represent someone with a history like Trump, you get an up-front retainer of at least $100k that Trump is required to "re-fill" when it hits some minimum draw-down balance, or else you withdraw further representation.
The REAL sad (and yet still funny) attorney-got-boned story is Kenneth Chesebro who admitted he wrote all the fake elector memos pro fvcking bono! The poor guy threw away his legal career (and probably his freedom for 2-5 years) for an AGREED payment of $0.00 (zero dot zero zero). My god what a sad fool.
Having Sally Vix in political threads is like being at a the adult dinner table having an adult discussion and one of the toddlers comes over and interrupts to show you her finger paintings.
"You are a truly disgusting human being." You characterize this as an "adult" discussion?
Disgust and not discussion is a legitimate response to someone who expresses patently racial and misogynistic prejudices, as your ally regularly does.
Whatever you think he may or may not have done this time is irrelevant. at the end of the day, you are trying to bypass the vote. That’s the simplest method to win. 100% effective in every Communist nation in History.
Why don't you name a few countries that you believe are communist since this is word you regularly throw around?
OK, here's the hierarchy of responses to Trumpers:
1) Those with the self-restraint to never respond.
2) Those with less self-restraint (and maturity?), who mainly just mock them (me, and The King of this category, Trollinimator [sp?]).
3) Those who ACTUALLY ask them questions !!!
Is it too selective of me to say that we should DRAW THE LINE between 2 and 3 ???
I don’t like Trump. I wish he would just go away but I voted for him two times. I defend him every day on these boards and will readily vote for him again regardless of any.criminality that comes out.
Totally normal stuff. Not a cult whatsoever.
You support criminality but aren't intelligent enough to realise that when it is directed at your democracy it is directed at you, too.
NEW: The lack of payments to Giuliani, John Eastman and Sidney Powell for their post 2020 election work could be an ominous sign if any of Trump's co-defendants listed on the latest indictment think they're going to see much legal help from Trump's PAC.
if any of these other indicted Trumpers planned on loyalty from Trump they will quickly be learning the lesson of ETTD!
Giuliani and Eastman pled the Fifth (i.e., guilty) earlier, so they are of no help to Trump at all anymore, and he has no incentive to ever pay them. They were being idiots - if you are going to represent someone with a history like Trump, you get an up-front retainer of at least $100k that Trump is required to "re-fill" when it hits some minimum draw-down balance, or else you withdraw further representation.
The REAL sad (and yet still funny) attorney-got-boned story is Kenneth Chesebro who admitted he wrote all the fake elector memos pro fvcking bono! The poor guy threw away his legal career (and probably his freedom for 2-5 years) for an AGREED payment of $0.00 (zero dot zero zero). My god what a sad fool.
Here's a photo of Chesebro. He definitely has a bend-over "Thank you Sir, may I have another!" look to him. Poor guy has probably been getting beat up by bullies like Trump since he was in short pants.
The macro event is that, in America, we have never put the opposition leader in chains. this is a game changer that one side chose to support. we see who is on their side Nov 24’. This is the red line Obama spoke of.
End of story. that’s the news.
You want this to make sense historically but it is unprecedented. That is Trump's criminality and scuminess is unprecedented. Any similar situations the party in question would have rid themselves of the culprit -Nixon and to an extent Cankles for simply not being electable.
But the GOP has completely transformed itself to embrace and justify Trumps actions. Trump and his cult have crossed the uncrossable line not those holding him accountable.
The democrats have transformed themselves into a woke banana republic along with a cheerleading lib media to support them 100%.
The macro event is that, in America, we have never put the opposition leader in chains. this is a game changer that one side chose to support. we see who is on their side Nov 24’. This is the red line Obama spoke of.
End of story. that’s the news.
You want this to make sense historically but it is unprecedented. That is Trump's criminality and scuminess is unprecedented. Any similar situations the party in question would have rid themselves of the culprit -Nixon and to an extent Cankles for simply not being electable.
But the GOP has completely transformed itself to embrace and justify Trumps actions. Trump and his cult have crossed the uncrossable line not those holding him accountable.
I know that people know this, including me, obviously, but it is easy to KIND OF forget that it's (very early) primary season.
The f****** GOP is NOT currently, politically, making the indefensible choice that Biden is more of a threat than Trump. That will come later.
No, the polls CLEARLY say that they ALSO think that Trump is better than all of the (mostly) far less disgusting GOP hopefuls.
Trump over every non-Trump in the field. I know it's no newsflash, but their dishonesty about the degree to which they really disapprove of Trump is.....Trumpian.
Unlike 2020, they HAVE a choice. And Trump is still their man. Un-fu**** real.
To paraphrase Nicholson from a certain movie to some guy named Tom: "You WANT him.....You NEED him......"
Why don't you name a few countries that you believe are communist since this is word you regularly throw around?
OK, here's the hierarchy of responses to Trumpers:
1) Those with the self-restraint to never respond.
2) Those with less self-restraint (and maturity?), who mainly just mock them (me, and The King of this category, Trollinimator [sp?]).
3) Those who ACTUALLY ask them questions !!!
Is it too selective of me to say that we should DRAW THE LINE between 2 and 3 ???
I used to be in #1, but I think it's important to single these morons out via ridicule. I got tired of seeing trumpers spread their diarrhea thinking they are in the know. So I let them know how special they are and expose them when possible. There can be no social tolerance for these irretrievably lost mouth breathers. If you want to be on that side supporting a criminal, I want you to really own it.
Whatever you think he may or may not have done this time is irrelevant. at the end of the day, you are trying to bypass the vote. That’s the simplest method to win. 100% effective in every Communist nation in History.
I believe we already had a vote, courts agreed more than 60 times that Trump lost, and that with his attempted coup it was trump who wanted to get around the vote. Are you calling him a communist?
right, we had 2 votes and the rubber match is in Nov, unless you guys can find a way to avoid it, Not sure what you are talking about with Trump but my guess is that he had advice that the election was going to be contested. i doubt he was running the internet tabulations that were online. do you think he was? or just taking advice of his counsel, which never used to be a crime, but somehow you found a way. i see al gore is still walking the streets after he contested the vote about 1000 times in Florida. its the people carrying flags of support that scares you, isn't it? get used to it sis
now, if trump wouldve been running the live internet tabulations of votes, u might have something but to tell his supporters to go protest peacefully, and then contest the case in civil court never used to be criminal, but you guys are a new breed of losers in America. never been done here.
right, we had 2 votes and the rubber match is in Nov, unless you guys can find a way to avoid it, Not sure what you are talking about with Trump but my guess is that he had advice that the election was going to be contested. i doubt he was running the internet tabulations that were online. do you think he was? or just taking advice of his counsel, which never used to be a crime, but somehow you found a way. i see al gore is still walking the streets after he contested the vote about 1000 times in Florida. its the people carrying flags of support that scares you, isn't it? get used to it sis
now, if trump wouldve been running the live internet tabulations of votes, u might have something but to tell his supporters to go protest peacefully, and then contest the case in civil court never used to be criminal, but you guys are a new breed of losers in America. never been done here.
Gore was an idiot. He had the electoral certificates right in his fat little hands. All he had to do was count the ones he believed were legitimate and he would have been president of the US for eight years. There would have been no Iraq war, no neo-cons, no Patriot Act, etc. But no, Gore just flubbed it through ignorance of the Constitution he swore to protect.
right, we had 2 votes and the rubber match is in Nov, unless you guys can find a way to avoid it, Not sure what you are talking about with Trump but my guess is that he had advice that the election was going to be contested. i doubt he was running the internet tabulations that were online. do you think he was? or just taking advice of his counsel, which never used to be a crime, but somehow you found a way. i see al gore is still walking the streets after he contested the vote about 1000 times in Florida. its the people carrying flags of support that scares you, isn't it? get used to it sis
now, if trump wouldve been running the live internet tabulations of votes, u might have something but to tell his supporters to go protest peacefully, and then contest the case in civil court never used to be criminal, but you guys are a new breed of losers in America. never been done here.
Gore was an idiot. He had the electoral certificates right in his fat little hands. All he had to do was count the ones he believed were legitimate and he would have been president of the US for eight years. There would have been no Iraq war, no neo-cons, no Patriot Act, etc. But no, Gore just flubbed it through ignorance of the Constitution he swore to protect.
whatever, its all talk at this point. One party in America put the others party leader in chains, in case you missed it. for doing basically what gore did. who knows what gore was doing behind the scenes because one side didnt care to arrest him. he can still run to this day if he wishes. you cnat even make an argument that he didnt contest the vote, but he was not up against communists, and we never will be. your man bribery joe could sign a contract with china and we would still let him run because he is your leader. you love him, and we respect that.
this move, putting the other guy in chains is a line crosser. you freaks dont even understand what Communism is, but you live it. was the same for Stalin and his people. you can still find those in russia who would argue that that wasn't Communism. you are no different.
