the economy does far, far better under dem presidents than under Repub presidents.
My brother has always been very conservative. He has degrees in economics and law. He's a CEO and a very typical businessman type. He has never voted for a Democrat for president.
I was talking to him the other day and he said, "It pains me to say this, but I have to admit, the data is clear. My economics background tells me that Democrats are better for the economy. Neither is very responsible, but Democrats are more fiscally conservative. If I want to stick to my Republican ideals, I might have to vote Democrat."
it's not just taking care of the budget better - the economy actually grows more under Dem presidents. It's indisputable data. Since WW2 anyway.
I think some of it is luck, but much of it is that the Rs just give the money to rich people, who don't need more money. The Ds give the money to not-rich people, who need the money and spend it, stimulating the entire economic food chain.
I would love to hear a rightist of some honor explain this and why he tolerates this kind of corruption while claiming to be for 'law and order.'
Criminal Indictments By Administration
OBAMA...............0
BIDEN................0 FORD.................1 CARTER..............1 GEORGE H BUSH..1 CLINTON.............2 GEORGE W BUSH.16 RONALD REAGAN..26 RICHARD NIXON...76 DONALD J TRUMP..215
People like you and other Trumpers deserved every word of it. Trump was and still remains a real threat to our democracy, and any American supporting him is outrageously stupid. You say you aren't and weren't a Trumper, but you defended him at every possible moment...makes you a Trumper. He deserves no defense. You Trumpers deserve all the ridicule and strident comments that could possibly be levied.
You still having a hissy fit that your brother is a patent attorney, makes serious cash (more than $1 million) and has a Ph. d., and you are earning $35,000 a year in the sh&thole that is Cleveland? Yeahh- I would be pretty pissed as well. Next time instead of majoring in psychology or journalism , major in a major that pays a pretty dollar and your brother might be envious of you. Journalism degrees pay squat, Flaggy. $35,000 a year tops.
I would love to hear a rightist of some honor explain this and why he tolerates this kind of corruption while claiming to be for 'law and order.'
Criminal Indictments By Administration
OBAMA...............0
BIDEN................0 FORD.................1 CARTER..............1 GEORGE H BUSH..1 CLINTON.............2 GEORGE W BUSH.16 RONALD REAGAN..26 RICHARD NIXON...76 DONALD J TRUMP..215
Agip - please delete this thread. You lied in it. Gregory Craig was an Obama aide. He was indicted. Please delete this thread- we won't wan't to be spreading lies. You are better than this.
My brother has always been very conservative. He has degrees in economics and law. He's a CEO and a very typical businessman type. He has never voted for a Democrat for president.
I was talking to him the other day and he said, "It pains me to say this, but I have to admit, the data is clear. My economics background tells me that Democrats are better for the economy. Neither is very responsible, but Democrats are more fiscally conservative. If I want to stick to my Republican ideals, I might have to vote Democrat."
it's not just taking care of the budget better - the economy actually grows more under Dem presidents. It's indisputable data. Since WW2 anyway.
I think some of it is luck, but much of it is that the Rs just give the money to rich people, who don't need more money. The Ds give the money to not-rich people, who need the money and spend it, stimulating the entire economic food chain.
Rs: top-down
Ds: bottom-up.
The Dem strategy seems to work better.
You live in an alternate reality. The economy absolutely SUCKS. Get your head checked.
I would love to hear a rightist of some honor explain this and why he tolerates this kind of corruption while claiming to be for 'law and order.'
Criminal Indictments By Administration
OBAMA...............0
BIDEN................0 FORD.................1 CARTER..............1 GEORGE H BUSH..1 CLINTON.............2 GEORGE W BUSH.16 RONALD REAGAN..26 RICHARD NIXON...76 DONALD J TRUMP..215
Agip - please delete this thread. You lied in it. Gregory Craig was an Obama aide. He was indicted. Please delete this thread- we won't wan't to be spreading lies. You are better than this.
Sometimes I think sally is a plant to make rightists look bad. Or maybe he’s just being funny here. Anyway.
craig was indicted after leaving the government and for crimes not committed while in government. And he was acquitted. But it’s Ukraine again! That country is at the heart of so much. Weird.
‘In 2019, Craig was indicted on charges of lying to federal prosecutors about the work he did at Skadden on behalf of the government of Ukraine under Viktor F. Yanukovych, work referred to Craig by Paul Manafort, then a Yanukovych consultant. Craig was acquitted in a jury trial.[1]’
Agip - please delete this thread. You lied in it. Gregory Craig was an Obama aide. He was indicted. Please delete this thread- we won't wan't to be spreading lies. You are better than this.
Sometimes I think sally is a plant to make rightists look bad. Or maybe he’s just being funny here. Anyway.
craig was indicted after leaving the government and for crimes not committed while in government. And he was acquitted. But it’s Ukraine again! That country is at the heart of so much. Weird.
‘In 2019, Craig was indicted on charges of lying to federal prosecutors about the work he did at Skadden on behalf of the government of Ukraine under Viktor F. Yanukovych, work referred to Craig by Paul Manafort, then a Yanukovych consultant. Craig was acquitted in a jury trial.[1]’
Okay lets play your silly game. How many of the alleged 215 indictments of the Trump administration were done while he or she was in the administration?
I would love to hear a rightist of some honor explain this and why he tolerates this kind of corruption while claiming to be for 'law and order.'
Criminal Indictments By Administration
OBAMA...............0
BIDEN................0 FORD.................1 CARTER..............1 GEORGE H BUSH..1 CLINTON.............2 GEORGE W BUSH.16 RONALD REAGAN..26 RICHARD NIXON...76 DONALD J TRUMP..215
Where you getting that 215 number, Agip? I need to see some support of it. This shows only 7 being criminally charged. Back up your accusations!
White House Director of Communications Kate Bedingfield said Tuesday that President Biden did not accidentally reveal classified information while attempting to clean up a gaffe he made last week while speaking to U.S. troops...
I would love to hear a rightist of some honor explain this and why he tolerates this kind of corruption while claiming to be for 'law and order.'
Criminal Indictments By Administration
OBAMA...............0
BIDEN................0 FORD.................1 CARTER..............1 GEORGE H BUSH..1 CLINTON.............2 GEORGE W BUSH.16 RONALD REAGAN..26 RICHARD NIXON...76 DONALD J TRUMP..215
Where you getting that 215 number, Agip? I need to see some support of it. This shows only 7 being criminally charged. Back up your accusations!
I'm sure some of this is gray area 'depends on how you define 'in the administration' but the pattern is not questionable.
So I guess no rightist wants to explain his 'eh who cares about corruption' stance.
You said no one in the Obama administration was indicted and i said Gregory Craig was. Well, then you said he was indicted after he left the adminstration. I then asked how many of the 215 were indicted and you can't even answer that? How many were in the administration and how many no longer in the administration. Not a tough question. Please answer it.
the economy does far, far better under dem presidents than under Repub presidents.
My brother has always been very conservative. He has degrees in economics and law. He's a CEO and a very typical businessman type. He has never voted for a Democrat for president.
I was talking to him the other day and he said, "It pains me to say this, but I have to admit, the data is clear. My economics background tells me that Democrats are better for the economy. Neither is very responsible, but Democrats are more fiscally conservative. If I want to stick to my Republican ideals, I might have to vote Democrat."
Nobody could have watched the last 12 months and believe that the Democrats are the party of fiscal restraint.
"Since the first half of 2021, US inflation has increasingly outpaced inflation in other developed countries. Estimates suggest that fiscal support measures...may have contributed to this divergence by raising inflation about 3pp by the end of 2021."https://t.co/YKIAVb8DjEpic.twitter.com/dRiwI5bTVe
Today trump again asked Russian intelligence to help his campaign. He has learned nothing.
trump is asking his pals in Russia to hurt a sitting US president during a nuclear crisis.
and he will be our next president, Most likely. Shame on us, shame on Republicans. This is about a centimeter from legal treason. As we supply weapons to a proxy fighting Russia, trump is asking Russia to undermine The American president.
Today trump again asked Russian intelligence to help his campaign. He has learned nothing.
trump is asking his pals in Russia to hurt a sitting US president during a nuclear crisis.
and he will be our next president, Most likely. Shame on us, shame on Republicans. This is about a centimeter from legal treason. As we supply weapons to a proxy fighting Russia, trump is asking Russia to undermine The American president.
Agip - you said 215 Trump officials were indicted. I googled and found this - that 11 had been indicted. Either back up your allegation or apologize. One or the other. You said 215 and I am seeing 11. Please put up or shut up.
Today trump again asked Russian intelligence to help his campaign. He has learned nothing.
trump is asking his pals in Russia to hurt a sitting US president during a nuclear crisis.
and he will be our next president, Most likely. Shame on us, shame on Republicans. This is about a centimeter from legal treason. As we supply weapons to a proxy fighting Russia, trump is asking Russia to undermine The American president.
Agip - you said 215 Trump officials were indicted. I googled and found this - that 11 had been indicted. Either back up your allegation or apologize. One or the other. You said 215 and I am seeing 11. Please put up or shut up.
I withdraw the actual count of indictments in the trump admin in that post. It is not accurate or fair. however, there is no doubt that Republican admins have resulted in far more criminal prosecution than Democratic admins. I stand by that.
Agip - please delete this thread. You lied in it. Gregory Craig was an Obama aide. He was indicted. Please delete this thread- we won't wan't to be spreading lies. You are better than this.
Sometimes I think sally is a plant to make rightists look bad. Or maybe he’s just being funny here. Anyway.
craig was indicted after leaving the government and for crimes not committed while in government. And he was acquitted. But it’s Ukraine again! That country is at the heart of so much. Weird.
‘In 2019, Craig was indicted on charges of lying to federal prosecutors about the work he did at Skadden on behalf of the government of Ukraine under Viktor F. Yanukovych, work referred to Craig by Paul Manafort, then a Yanukovych consultant. Craig was acquitted in a jury trial.[1]’
Even if you gave Sally that one indictment, it would still mean that the Trump administration was 215 times more corrupt than the Obama administration.
Yeah, Sally just called more attention to the corrupt Republicans. Maybe you are right about him being a plant to make Republicans look bad.
My brother has always been very conservative. He has degrees in economics and law. He's a CEO and a very typical businessman type. He has never voted for a Democrat for president.
I was talking to him the other day and he said, "It pains me to say this, but I have to admit, the data is clear. My economics background tells me that Democrats are better for the economy. Neither is very responsible, but Democrats are more fiscally conservative. If I want to stick to my Republican ideals, I might have to vote Democrat."
Nobody could have watched the last 12 months and believe that the Democrats are the party of fiscal restraint.
I'm pretty sure every enacted bill in the last 12 months was paid for.
Democrats tax and spend.
Republicans borrow and spend.
Compared to Republicans, Democrats are indeed the party of fiscal restraint.