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2 years ago 03/28/2022 8:43am EDT

re: Fat hurts

Coronavirus
Donald Trump
For red and blue America, a glaring divide in COVID-19 death rates persists 2 years latMon, March 28, 2022, 6:32 AM

Yahoo News, 03/28 :

Fears of COVID-19 resurgence in the US grow as officials warn of potential upticks.

However, vaccination rates differ markedly between states that voted for former President Donald Trump, compared to those that voted for President Joe Biden, paralleling the partisan lines that have divided the country.
Data sourced from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that the 10 states
Further, cumulative death data from the C.D.C., from over the last 10 months, illustrates the implications of political polarization of the COVID-19 vaccines.
An ABC News analysis of federal data found that on average, the death rates in states that voted for Trump were more than 38% higher than in states that voted for Biden, post widespread vaccine availability.
In addition, in the 10 states with the lowest percentage of full vaccinations, death rates were almost twice as high as that of states with the highest vaccination rates, the analysis found.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:10am EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Biden was speaking to the Russian people about removing Putin from office. It needed to be said. It was good for him to reinforce that idea to them.
He must have forgotten what country he was in (that wouldn't be a first). He was in Poland, not Russia.

In 1900, the first wireless transmission of the human voice was accomplished.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:13am EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
The 2024 nominee will be Florida Governor Ron Desantis. He is just waiting until 2023 to start talking about running.
If Trump is breathing, Trump is running.
Desantis can't beat Trump.
Trump can't beat Biden.

I don't think that Trump will run.

If he does run, it will be because he is convinced that enough state election boards have been sufficiently corrupted and/or other machinery has been put in place such that he will be "elected" President regardless of the actual voting totals. Otherwise he won't risk another loss.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:15am EDT

re: spry senior

spry senior wrote:
Coronavirus
Donald Trump
For red and blue America, a glaring divide in COVID-19 death rates persists 2 years latMon, March 28, 2022, 6:32 AM
Yahoo News, 03/28 :
Fears of COVID-19 resurgence in the US grow as officials warn of potential upticks.
However, vaccination rates differ markedly between states that voted for former President Donald Trump, compared to those that voted for President Joe Biden, paralleling the partisan lines that have divided the country.
Data sourced from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that the 10 states
Further, cumulative death data from the C.D.C., from over the last 10 months, illustrates the implications of political polarization of the COVID-19 vaccines.
An ABC News analysis of federal data found that on average, the death rates in states that voted for Trump were more than 38% higher than in states that voted for Biden, post widespread vaccine availability.
In addition, in the 10 states with the lowest percentage of full vaccinations, death rates were almost twice as high as that of states with the highest vaccination rates, the analysis found.

Wrong!

No one believes those totally fabricated numbers.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:20am EDT

re: Conundrum

Conundrum wrote:
Try as Putin might by closing independent news sources, Putin can't keep the Russian people 100% in the dark. Biden's message will get through to them.

It will not, and if it does, it will be used as anti-West propaganda that will only help Putin.

He remains very popular in Russia and a bumbling message from senile Joe will not change that.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:24am EDT

re: Conundrum

Conundrum wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
If Biden in fact was speaking to the Russian people (which Fat Hurts just pulled out of his you-know-what) why are all the world leaders and everyone else condemning Biden for escalating the war?
Actually he even made additional comments specifically to the Russian people during that speech. Do you need me to show them to you and do you want to look on your own.
Irrelevant. The seed was already there with many Russians. Biden is adding some water to help it grow.

Our European allies didn't seem to appreciate whatever ham-fisted point he was trying to make.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:31am EDT

re: Real Obvi

Real Obvi wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
He must have forgotten what country he was in (that wouldn't be a first). He was in Poland, not Russia.
In 1900, the first wireless transmission of the human voice was accomplished.

So he went to Poland to tell Russians how to vote.

And Russians are going to ignore their popular leader and instead let a Russian translation of Senile Joe in Poland guide them on how to vote.

You actually think that.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:33am EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

piece in the wapo today about how ted cruz was a key part of the coup.

remember, trump turned even the former actual conservatives into raving anti-constitutional monsters, trying to overturn democracy in America. ted cruz always billed himself as a reagan type. Until trump beat him into submission. now Cruz is in favor of a coup.

and the 'conservatives' have the utter gall and stupidity to say that the Dems are 'all about power.' it's so crazy I can't get my head around it.

Wapo:

As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike Pence could deny certifying Biden’s election, Cruz crafted a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a 10-day “audit” — thus potentially enabling GOP state legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on the day rioters attacked the Capitol.

The committee’s interest in Cruz is notable as investigators zero in on how closely Trump’s allies coordinated with members of Congress in the attempt to block or delay certifying Biden’s victory. If Cruz’s plan worked, it could have created enough chaos for Trump to remain in power.
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“It was a very dangerous proposal, and, you know, could very easily have put us into territory where we got to the inauguration and there was not a president,” Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), a Jan. 6 committee member, said earlier this year on the podcast “Honestly.” “And I think that Senator Cruz knew exactly what he was doing. I think that Senator Cruz is somebody who knows what the Constitution calls for, knows what his duties and obligations are, and was willing, frankly, to set that aside.”

2 years ago 03/28/2022 10:42am EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
In 1900, the first wireless transmission of the human voice was accomplished.
So he went to Poland to tell Russians how to vote.
And Russians are going to ignore their popular leader and instead let a Russian translation of Senile Joe in Poland guide them on how to vote.
You actually think that.

What makes you think that after Putin's fiasco he is still popular?

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:01am EDT

re: Real Obvi

Real Obvi wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
If Trump is breathing, Trump is running.
Desantis can't beat Trump.
Trump can't beat Biden.
I don't think that Trump will run.
If he does run, it will be because he is convinced that enough state election boards have been sufficiently corrupted and/or other machinery has been put in place such that he will be "elected" President regardless of the actual voting totals. Otherwise he won't risk another loss.

It would make sense for him not to run but I think he will run. Think about who Trump is.

(1) He has always severely over estimated his own abilities. He will think he would win.

(2) He needs to be the center of attention from the media and from big crowds. He can continue the Trump show by running.

(3) He is driven by revenge, being president will allow him the leverage for this to occur.

(4) It will also protect him from future legal or civil lawsuits.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:05am EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
In 1900, the first wireless transmission of the human voice was accomplished.
So he went to Poland to tell Russians how to vote.
And Russians are going to ignore their popular leader and instead let a Russian translation of Senile Joe in Poland guide them on how to vote.
You actually think that.

Are you really so clueless that you think voters could remove Putin from office?

That's not how things work in Russia. When leaders get ousted, it is not done at the ballot box.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:10am EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
piece in the wapo today about how ted cruz was a key part of the coup.
remember, trump turned even the former actual conservatives into raving anti-constitutional monsters, trying to overturn democracy in America. ted cruz always billed himself as a reagan type. Until trump beat him into submission. now Cruz is in favor of a coup.
and the 'conservatives' have the utter gall and stupidity to say that the Dems are 'all about power.' it's so crazy I can't get my head around it.
Wapo:
As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike Pence could deny certifying Biden’s election, Cruz crafted a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a 10-day “audit” — thus potentially enabling GOP state legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
The committee’s interest in Cruz is notable as investigators zero in on how closely Trump’s allies coordinated with members of Congress in the attempt to block or delay certifying Biden’s victory. If Cruz’s plan worked, it could have created enough chaos for Trump to remain in power.
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“It was a very dangerous proposal, and, you know, could very easily have put us into territory where we got to the inauguration and there was not a president,” Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), a Jan. 6 committee member, said earlier this year on the podcast “Honestly.” “And I think that Senator Cruz knew exactly what he was doing. I think that Senator Cruz is somebody who knows what the Constitution calls for, knows what his duties and obligations are, and was willing, frankly, to set that aside.”

Once people take a position, it's not too surprising (if still disappointing) that they stick with it no matter the stupidity, hypocrisy, etc. What's far more surprising and massively disappointing is that SO many Americans signed on to that side to begin with....and have stayed that way. Pretending like the other side is as bad as you is just the icing.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:13am EDT

re: Conundrum

Conundrum wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
I don't think that Trump will run.
If he does run, it will be because he is convinced that enough state election boards have been sufficiently corrupted and/or other machinery has been put in place such that he will be "elected" President regardless of the actual voting totals. Otherwise he won't risk another loss.
It would make sense for him not to run but I think he will run. Think about who Trump is.
(1) He has always severely over estimated his own abilities. He will think he would win.
(2) He needs to be the center of attention from the media and from big crowds. He can continue the Trump show by running.
(3) He is driven by revenge, being president will allow him the leverage for this to occur.
(4) It will also protect him from future legal or civil lawsuits.

I'd love to be missing something, but I'm surprised that so many are still willing to say that Trump - politically, at least - destroyed the R party. Funny thing to say about a party that pretty much everyone thinks is going to take back at least the House this fall. What a sad country.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:27am EDT

re: nonequals

nonequals wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
It would make sense for him not to run but I think he will run. Think about who Trump is.
(1) He has always severely over estimated his own abilities. He will think he would win.
(2) He needs to be the center of attention from the media and from big crowds. He can continue the Trump show by running.
(3) He is driven by revenge, being president will allow him the leverage for this to occur.
(4) It will also protect him from future legal or civil lawsuits.
I'd love to be missing something, but I'm surprised that so many are still willing to say that Trump - politically, at least - destroyed the R party. Funny thing to say about a party that pretty much everyone thinks is going to take back at least the House this fall. What a sad country.

2 things at play: 1) much of the right simply believes liberals will end the country. They are full of hate fueled by endless lying and propaganda, and will go along with whatever it takes to own the libs. When Ds are in power, the GQP has the gaslighting advantage hence the pendulum swinging. 2) Ds really really suck at politics. They fumble at every turn. Like the GQP, they are lacking more and more in substance and actionable platforms, and end up relying more on the vote against the other side strategy. They haven't gone the route of Rs yet though with the open lying and criming, which is why they keep getting my vote.

It's a sad and rotten country.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:31am EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
piece in the wapo today about how ted cruz was a key part of the coup.
remember, trump turned even the former actual conservatives into raving anti-constitutional monsters, trying to overturn democracy in America. ted cruz always billed himself as a reagan type. Until trump beat him into submission. now Cruz is in favor of a coup.
and the 'conservatives' have the utter gall and stupidity to say that the Dems are 'all about power.' it's so crazy I can't get my head around it.
Wapo:
As Eastman outlined a scenario in which Vice President Mike Pence could deny certifying Biden’s election, Cruz crafted a complementary plan in the Senate. He proposed objecting to the results in six swing states and delaying accepting the electoral college results on Jan. 6 in favor of a 10-day “audit” — thus potentially enabling GOP state legislatures to overturn the result. Ten other senators backed his proposal, which Cruz continued to advocate on the day rioters attacked the Capitol.
The committee’s interest in Cruz is notable as investigators zero in on how closely Trump’s allies coordinated with members of Congress in the attempt to block or delay certifying Biden’s victory. If Cruz’s plan worked, it could have created enough chaos for Trump to remain in power.
Advertisement
“It was a very dangerous proposal, and, you know, could very easily have put us into territory where we got to the inauguration and there was not a president,” Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), a Jan. 6 committee member, said earlier this year on the podcast “Honestly.” “And I think that Senator Cruz knew exactly what he was doing. I think that Senator Cruz is somebody who knows what the Constitution calls for, knows what his duties and obligations are, and was willing, frankly, to set that aside.”

Whether the GQP continues to back trump depends now on whether chuds like Cruz continue to be re-elected. If so, the party keeps up their trump-loving theater. Treason from people like Cruz was on full display the whole time. It's not surprising nor disapproved by tzees. They love it.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:33am EDT

re: Conundrum

Conundrum wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
I don't think that Trump will run.
If he does run, it will be because he is convinced that enough state election boards have been sufficiently corrupted and/or other machinery has been put in place such that he will be "elected" President regardless of the actual voting totals. Otherwise he won't risk another loss.
It would make sense for him not to run but I think he will run. Think about who Trump is.
(1) He has always severely over estimated his own abilities. He will think he would win.
(2) He needs to be the center of attention from the media and from big crowds. He can continue the Trump show by running.
(3) He is driven by revenge, being president will allow him the leverage for this to occur.
(4) It will also protect him from future legal or civil lawsuits.

once trump says he isn;t running, he can't fundraise from the rubes. And the day he says he isn't running, he loses most of his bullying power.

Trump will run if he is healthy and not in too serious legal trouble.

And....we are doomed.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:36am EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
So he went to Poland to tell Russians how to vote.
And Russians are going to ignore their popular leader and instead let a Russian translation of Senile Joe in Poland guide them on how to vote.
You actually think that.
Are you really so clueless that you think voters could remove Putin from office?
That's not how things work in Russia. When leaders get ousted, it is not done at the ballot box.

Saddam Hussein was always re-elected with 100% of the votes.

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:38am EDT

re: agip

agip wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
It would make sense for him not to run but I think he will run. Think about who Trump is.
(1) He has always severely over estimated his own abilities. He will think he would win.
(2) He needs to be the center of attention from the media and from big crowds. He can continue the Trump show by running.
(3) He is driven by revenge, being president will allow him the leverage for this to occur.
(4) It will also protect him from future legal or civil lawsuits.
once trump says he isn;t running, he can't fundraise from the rubes. And the day he says he isn't running, he loses most of his bullying power.
Trump will run if he is healthy and not in too serious legal trouble.
And....we are doomed.

You have been promising us serious legal trouble for Trump for years and years. When is his serious legal trouble going to occur? The two top prosecutors for NY have already resigned. Are we just going to pretend that Trump has serious legal trouble?

2 years ago 03/28/2022 11:40am EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
So he went to Poland to tell Russians how to vote.
And Russians are going to ignore their popular leader and instead let a Russian translation of Senile Joe in Poland guide them on how to vote.
You actually think that.
Are you really so clueless that you think voters could remove Putin from office?

Apparently your President thinks so - unless he was calling for another regime change war

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