^this guy was a little more explicit. Most of the rest were the usual vague apologetic deflection of racism. Over the years I’ve wondered- do most of these posters spend a hefty amount of internet time on other, more explicitly racial sites? And then get the tip that this place is a haven for it, or is it just a bizarre bastion of racism for a small clique of its denizens to vent their anger?
PS. To the Despite the rhetoric I’m sure your consuming from sympathetically racist media- no, in fact, everyone does not feel that same primal thought. You do, you’re thinking primitively and wishfully projecting that to humanity at large; it’s a big world, expand your mind a bit.
Not true. When in Prague almost anyone could ask him for an autograph as he was warming up in the middle of the city see
https://www.brunningmag.cz/blog/we-named-our-dog-after-zatopek
At face value, we don't have to like the guy and can all admit personality wise, he comes off as a dud. BUT, he is indeed elite world class and can very well go down as one of the best ever. Another big BUT (no pun) we can't ignore that the NOP and Alberto ties have tainted his legacy, and there's a good chance we'll never know exactly what blurred lines were tainted with. All of that sadly leaves every achievement for the remainder of his career in question and hard to celebrate.
This x10,000! Too tired of writing this over and over to say much, but the whole "American-born" thing reeks of subtle racism, and is perpetuated by both the site's writers and the people on the message board. It's tiresome, at best, and malignant at worst.
Glad there's some sanity on here. Yeah, it's not a primal thought in me to root against people of color because I'm white. I'd root for Kipchoge ten times out of ten over Rupp.
Also, there isn't some "drastic DNA difference" between people of different skin color. We're all human and very similar.
It's crazy this is what America (and seemingly lots of the rest of the world) has become. I don't remember the board being like this when I first came almost two decades ago, but maybe I just didn't notice because I was young. The website's creators certainly support this nonsense, though.
How did this thread about Rupp's fantastic run get turned into a thread about racism?
Aren't we supposed to be discussing how awesome it was he ran a fast time? And he won? And how he DROPPED a 2:04 guy?
Yall will blame the writers as a scapegoat saying they started it, but I think youre doing it because you want to distract yourself from the fact that Rupp has become better than you ever expected, better than you ever wanted him to be. And that makes you angry.
Im so sick of people who call other people racist. Just stop. Talk about running.
I would like to add to the mathematical fluke theme. John J. Kelley was the high school coach and mentor to Amby Burfoot.
Burfoot was the college roommate/teammate of Bill Rodgers. As part of the GBTC, Bill Rodgers trained with a high school kid named Alberto Salazar (seeing Rodgers win Boston 1975 inspired the idea in Salazar that he could become become a top marathoner).
Maybe the Kelley-Burfoot-Rodgers-Salazar-Rupp chain shows what can happen when gifted people make a connection with someone that inspire/help them to help him take advantage of their exceptional gifts.
There is no notable difference between a Black American man and a White American man other than skin colour. There is no reason to support a White American athlete over a Black American athlete or vice versa because of their skin colours. It's madness.
That poster has been raised to see people of different colour as actually inciting different 'feelings' inside him towards them. Purely because of their race. This is not natural. This is the result of parents conditioning you to see non-Whites as inherently different to Whites beyond physical appearance.
I'm sick of the racists. There is a reason race is brought up on this forum so frequently and is never brought up on other sporting forums, and this is simply because the posters on this site say racist things.
OK race, but still nearly a minute behind Sondre Moen.
It's a great result for Galen and one that wouldn't have happened without getting KO'd in Boston. True champions take setbacks and find the way to make themselves better from it. Good on you, Galen. Looking forward to more.
ex-runner wrote:
Bullet_Proof wrote:
How did this thread about Rupp's fantastic run get turned into a thread about racism?
Aren't we supposed to be discussing how awesome it was he ran a fast time? And he won? And how he DROPPED a 2:04 guy?
Yall will blame the writers as a scapegoat saying they started it, but I think youre doing it because you want to distract yourself from the fact that Rupp has become better than you ever expected, better than you ever wanted him to be. And that makes you angry.
Im so sick of people who call other people racist. Just stop. Talk about running.
I'm sick of the racists. There is a reason race is brought up on this forum so frequently and is never brought up on other sporting forums, and this is simply because the posters on this site say racist things.
Listen fragile flower. I remember ten years ago how this site demeaned whites and performances by whites -yes it was targeted against whites and whites in particular. It is no better now. Why are you not on here creating balance if you're so fair and everyone is the same? Are you saying that you do not want to see whites rooting for whites? You would like to force people to root for particular people because this is what you want?
Other sporting forums? Like that braindead, mind numbingly PC, put blacks on an alter, sporting forum of track and field news? Yo do realize how biased they are?
Notbad wrote:
OK race, but still nearly a minute behind Sondre Moen.
Since when is 19 seconds almost a minute????
Hfdghg wrote:
Only 183th fastest marathon time (and doped to the gills).
Meanwhile in Kenya
https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,h_240,w_320/v1500008504/h5sy3fgj0olrwvalmbvo.jpg
If you received no OOC test within 6 months of a marathon; ran your sub-2:06 in a marathon in a race like Dubi, Rotterdam or Paris that has a times had questionable testing practices; no verifiable quality track credentials; no WADA BP on file; you were represented by one of a half-dozen European agents with a history of doping; you were virtually unknown prior to the marathon and disappeared a year or two after the marathon. If any of these situations apply, I am discounting your performance. Nearly half of those 183 African marathon performances are questionable. One athlete, Titus Munji ran 2:06:15 in the 2003 Berlin Marathon. Prior to that 2:06 marathon, he was unheard of with modest track PRs of 14:05 and 29:15. 2 years later he completely disappeared. Berhanu Shiferaw ran 2:04:48 in the 2013 Dubi Marathon, supposedly he was age 19 at that time, but never came within 4 minutes of that time in a marathon outside of Dubai. The great Paul Tergat said in a 2009 interview that was meant for internal Kenyan consumption. He was asked about 3 athletes running faster than his previous world record in one race, he replies (paraphrase) my 2003 (2:04;55) marathon world record was the culmination of a lifetime of work on the track and in cross country. He said he lost a lot of marathons before he finally won one. Nowadays, agents and young athletes are willing to risk health and dignity for instant fame and money. These young athletes can't stand up straight and look you directly in the eye and instead of buying land, they become drunkards. He was criticized for his comments, primarily because they were picked up outside of Kenya.
Until recently, doping in Africa has been fairly out in the open. There is a long time conspiracy of silence in Africa that basically states that you don't do or say anything that gets in the way of making money.