stuck with match.com wrote:
El Guerrouj runs a 3:26 and everybody cries doper! Wheating runs 3:30 and everybody cries hard work and talent, fastest man in the us!
Interesting.....
Will we ever see this Wheating again?
stuck with match.com wrote:
El Guerrouj runs a 3:26 and everybody cries doper! Wheating runs 3:30 and everybody cries hard work and talent, fastest man in the us!
Interesting.....
Will we ever see this Wheating again?
I think so.
toro wrote:
Going into the season I thought Wheating had the ability to get a 3:33 lifetime best.
So for me, it's all cake from here.
I hope people don't hate on him if he never medals. (2nd fastest American born ever but only 4th in this race and Kiprop wasn't even there)
Outside of this race, nearly 4 years later, Wheating's best ever 1500 is 3:34.39.
So, we were commenting on a once in a lifetime performance on this thread. Probably.
Hopefully he can get in the mix again.
The other big shocker that was barely commented on in this thread was the nobody that won the race with who had a slower PR than Wheating going into the year (3:39.1 in 2009)- Silas Kiplagat.
Kiplagat went on to win a Silver at the 2011 WC and was the 2012 Golden League winner. And was one of the best in the world last year.
Kiplagat's lifetime PR, however, also comes from that race in 2010.
Kiplagat has been in the mix on a regular basis since then. Hardly a fair comparison.
Wheating finished 9th in that 3:34.39. I'm guessing that was all out. He is now a 26 year old 1:47/3:37 guy.
cap'n crunch wrote:
Wheating finished 9th in that 3:34.39. I'm guessing that was all out. He is now a 26 year old 1:47/3:37 guy.
He has been injured a LOT of the past 3 years. Though he also seemed to need some focus that I think Salazar could have brought him, injury was the biggest reason for less than stellar performances.
If he stays healthy, I'm sure we can see him run some great races again. When he ran 3:30 he had not been running for very many years.
Hoping we can see him come back, but he needs to treat it like a professional with food, rest, treatment etc. I don't know for sure that he doesn't, but it's just my hunch that it's not at the same level as Jerry's and Alberto's groups.
blob. wrote:
stuck with match.com wrote:El Guerrouj runs a 3:26 and everybody cries doper! Wheating runs 3:30 and everybody cries hard work and talent, fastest man in the us!
Interesting.....
Will we ever see this Wheating again?
Sometimes all the stars align for an athlete in a race as we have seen on other occasions. Webb's 3:53 mile at age 18 or Robby Andrew's 1:44x at the NCAA champs are other examples of athletes who ran an incredible race and struggled to get back to that form. With that said, if you run a great time at a young enough age, you should be able to do it again at some point. The problem with running a great time at a young age is that's what people will always measure you by and the pressure can be too much...ask Webb about that. If Wheating runs a respectable 3:32 or Andrews' 1:44, those times will be about where they should be, but the fandom won't see it that way.
TrackCoach wrote:
Sometimes all the stars align for an athlete in a race as we have seen on other occasions. Webb's 3:53 mile at age 18 or Robby Andrew's 1:44x at the NCAA champs are other examples of athletes who ran an incredible race and struggled to get back to that form. With that said, if you run a great time at a young enough age, you should be able to do it again at some point. The problem with running a great time at a young age is that's what people will always measure you by and the pressure can be too much...ask Webb about that. If Wheating runs a respectable 3:32 or Andrews' 1:44, those times will be about where they should be, but the fandom won't see it that way.
I see your point, but I still think it is much more about injuries. They have a huge physical AND mental impact on a runner. 4 years ago?? It's truly amazing that he ran that fast right out of college, and shocking he hasn't touched it since. Take away the african transplants (Maree, Lagat), and only Webb ever ran faster, and only by a 1/2 second.
It's all about staying healthy. The history of running is full of mind-boggling talent that never developed like it might have due to injuries. Look at even Solinsky: one big injury, but then is 100% healthy for at least a year now, full mileage and workouts with great crew....still a shell of his former self. And let's not even get started on Fernandez, or others. Lots of injuries are the death knell for any great runner
Kind of agree with you on this. I remember Wheating however just getting back to health several times and then getting injured again. He needs to be healthy for an extended period of time and get into some races and have one click and I think we'll get that greatness again. But being healthy is his biggest challenge. That's why I always thought he should be up in Portland putting in a fair amount of miles on an alter g and underwater treadmill and with a coach who will scrutinize this as well as his diet and treatment. Probably wouldn't be the worst thing for his mind to finish workouts with Centro and Rupp again.
Perspectivation wrote:
Probably wouldn't be the worst thing for his mind to finish workouts with Centro and Rupp again.
Unless he finishes behind them consistently.
by gone. wrote:
Perspectivation wrote:Probably wouldn't be the worst thing for his mind to finish workouts with Centro and Rupp again.
Unless he finishes behind them consistently.
True, but considering that is where he has been basically over the last several years, any improvement could be a confidence booster.
Though this is all hypothetical, you are right that there is a gamble that it could backfire, it could also hurt Centro/Rupp if Wheating does hit his stride and start blasting them at the end of workouts. On shorter stuff, or with enough rest he certainly can.
That said they are big enough boys and I bet they can reconize his strengths and use it to help them improve.
Hey Robby Andrews had a little spark at indoor USA's, let's see if Wheating can get to form this outdoor season. I have a sneaking suspicion the guy is in great shape right now and just being overly cautious.
Surely his chance encounter with xenonscreams will inspire great things in the future!
Wood much?
Sis and bro???
xfittest wrote:
Surely his chance encounter with xenonscreams will inspire great things in the future!
http://i.imgur.com/Djp0JXz.jpg
WHEATING'S BACK BABY!
Dewey_Runner wrote:
WHEATING'S BACK BABY!
Thought this was a 3:30.9 that he just ran now, damn.
Carmelita Jeter looks like a man.
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