I believe he’s stated in the past that he is on the spectrum so perhaps he misses certain social cues but the last two years have proven he doesn’t have the wherewithal or temperament to run a business let alone two. He’s a visionary no doubt but lacks the managerial qualities necessary to navigate difficult terrain. Oh—he’s also cultivated a cult of personality from the canard that he is a free speech “absolutist” even though he’s known to stifle speech he himself disagrees with.
"He’s a visionary no doubt but lacks the managerial qualities necessary to navigate difficult terrain."
This is incorrect. As someone in commercial space, I can tell you that what Elon has done is extraordinary. Other proven extraordinary managers like Bezos have tried their hand and failed by comparison. Without Musk, there is no successful commercial space movement. And while I hope / expect SpaceX to have true competitors in the future, those competitors are populated and led by ex-SpaceX engineers.
I know a lot less about electric cars than I do about rockets, but from where I sit, it looks like he did something extraordinary there as well.
Yes, he's doing a terrible job managing twitter. The politically-correct suck-ups were probably doing a better job making Twitter profitable. Personally, I think X / Twitter and other similar social media are a cancer on our society.
But if you want a great leader who can actually deal with the intractable challenges that physics levies, Elon is your guy. Even if he never does a single positive thing again, he will still rightly be remembered in history as an extraordinary engineering leader.
The root problem here is that Elon bought Twitter for “social” reasons
He wanted to reduce the amount of “media” manipulation of the current government before the next election
He wanted to help maintain freedom of speech
That is a life mission, not a business
He had no interest in selling ads for the next Disney movie, which is really Twitter’s business
Purposes we’re not aligned
Unless there is something completely different here that I am missing
Recall, early October. It's not only X facing this. Recall, I believe Penn and at least three other Ivy League schools were threatened by Jewish millionaires and billionaires: Shut down Palestinian Rights demonstrations or the money stops. Instead of shutting down Palestinian students, I wish education institutions would have made analysis, what would occur sans money from Jewish millionaires and billionaires. A. What would occur if fund raising were increased from Gentiles? B. What would Gentiles say about life on campus if Gentiles contribute more? C. What cuts would be needed with fewer Jewish dollars?
Their behavior has been so evil and between tik tok, rumble, X etc. we have been able to see it.
So they lost control of the narrative.
So now the mask comes off and they go right to this naked extortion. Withdrawing job offers, firing people, ending donations.
"He’s a visionary no doubt but lacks the managerial qualities necessary to navigate difficult terrain."
This is incorrect. As someone in commercial space, I can tell you that what Elon has done is extraordinary. Other proven extraordinary managers like Bezos have tried their hand and failed by comparison. Without Musk, there is no successful commercial space movement. And while I hope / expect SpaceX to have true competitors in the future, those competitors are populated and led by ex-SpaceX engineers.
I know a lot less about electric cars than I do about rockets, but from where I sit, it looks like he did something extraordinary there as well.
Yes, he's doing a terrible job managing twitter. The politically-correct suck-ups were probably doing a better job making Twitter profitable. Personally, I think X / Twitter and other similar social media are a cancer on our society.
But if you want a great leader who can actually deal with the intractable challenges that physics levies, Elon is your guy. Even if he never does a single positive thing again, he will still rightly be remembered in history as an extraordinary engineering leader.
The root problem here is that Elon bought Twitter for “social” reasons
He wanted to reduce the amount of “media” manipulation of the current government before the next election
He wanted to help maintain freedom of speech
That is a life mission, not a business
He had no interest in selling ads for the next Disney movie, which is really Twitter’s business
Purposes we’re not aligned
Unless there is something completely different here that I am missing
LOL, come on. No one can be this stupid. Elmo bought it because he's a petulant man-child who was bullied all of his life and now he can use his money to buy his own sandbox so no one could ever shut him down.
He's addicted to idiots like you praising him. That's it.
The guy can be such an idiot. The valuation of Twitter (sorry, "X") has plummeted. People are deciding that is not the place to spend this money. That is not blackmail.
He's addicted to idiots like you praising him. That's it.
Agreed. And what praise-seekers like Musk don't realize is that the praise of others isn't sincere. Its from a bunch of weak cowards to whom Musk is a tool to "go kick people's butts for them" since they lack the courage to do so themselves. The minute Musk stops kicking butt for others, they will turn on him on a dime.
We saw the same thing with the redneck lady interviewed on TV a few years back, who was complaining that Trump "wasn't hurting the right people." We have a country full of people who never left middle school from a social, emotional, and intelligence perspective. Several are here on this message board. And while they may claim it is immature to play "gotcha," any negative response to my post proves me right.
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I support free speech not woke silencing. Musk is not antisemitic, but the media has put a target on him because they are filled with Marxist, leftist, and antiemetic persons who hate America, hate freedom, and hate people that go against the Democratic Party controlled narratives to stay in power.
That's the most nearly perfect post I have ever seen.
"woke" - check
"Marxist" - check
"leftist" - check
"hate America" - check
"hate freedom" - check
"Dem controlled narratives" - check
Maybe you could have thrown a "sheeple" or two in there - but dang, that was a great post!
Put that word salad to some music and he may be on to usurping the perfect country western song, “I was drunk the day my momma got out of prison…”
Huge multinational companies with hundreds of billons of dollars at their disposal and the backing of the world's larges corrupt banks (and even more corrupt central banks / governments) in their corner go after a guy with less money and resources (who is probably also tied up with some of the more exploitative financial concerns), and he tells them to go kick rocks.
If it isn't all theater just to make people think there is dissent in the billionaire ranks, then it is pretty awesome.
And even it if it theater, it sure as hell beats the manufactured consensus that makes up most mass-media . One can only hope it prompts people to have deeper conversations about what is going on between government, mass media, and various parts of the population.
Then of course there's the 'troll' aspect: the worst and most murderous things in the world tend to be done with an air of politeness. Like "hey I get that Trump started less wars than any other president in our lifetimes, but he just isn't polite enough" -- implication being that you can be a mass-murdering crony and still be called 'presidential' long as you stay on script.
Likewise, Disney and their homies at CAA can brainwash generations of kids with anti-family messaging and then attempt to intimidate actors into being silent during mass murder as long as their executives stick to the script.
Apple can depend on sweatshop labor and censor their most popular apps in service to the regime, but as long as Tim Cook shows up for interviews with answers cleared by his legal team, somehow that becomes respectable or even standard corporate behavior.
The fact that Musk's comments were met with predictable name-calling instead of requests for a deeper conversation sure is telling.
I can’t blame you for not reading every single post, but in his defense (no, really) he has a coherent answer for that. In his view of corporations (as opposed to people) doing this, one might wonder what he thinks of Citizens United. Regardless of his answer in that, the fallback is the idea that the withholding of ad revenue is coordinated. You may disagree with how well established that point is or how deep a problem if true, but at least it’s an argument with way more thought behind it than you might have noticed initially.
I don't think Musk is much of a principled guy. He's more the type things are right if they favor me and wrong if they're against me. He's the richest autistic child in the world.
Lack of awareness and empathy for others is a common trait of some of those with autism. In fact it's one of the early diagnostic traits of autism. (It is also common with some extremely rich people)
"He’s a visionary no doubt but lacks the managerial qualities necessary to navigate difficult terrain."
This is incorrect. As someone in commercial space, I can tell you that what Elon has done is extraordinary. Other proven extraordinary managers like Bezos have tried their hand and failed by comparison. Without Musk, there is no successful commercial space movement. And while I hope / expect SpaceX to have true competitors in the future, those competitors are populated and led by ex-SpaceX engineers.
I know a lot less about electric cars than I do about rockets, but from where I sit, it looks like he did something extraordinary there as well.
Yes, he's doing a terrible job managing twitter. The politically-correct suck-ups were probably doing a better job making Twitter profitable. Personally, I think X / Twitter and other similar social media are a cancer on our society.
But if you want a great leader who can actually deal with the intractable challenges that physics levies, Elon is your guy. Even if he never does a single positive thing again, he will still rightly be remembered in history as an extraordinary engineering leader.
The root problem here is that Elon bought Twitter for “social” reasons
He wanted to reduce the amount of “media” manipulation of the current government before the next election
He wanted to help maintain freedom of speech
That is a life mission, not a business
He had no interest in selling ads for the next Disney movie, which is really Twitter’s business
Purposes we’re not aligned
Unless there is something completely different here that I am missing
Here is a potential solution to the “problem”.
How to promote free speech without being held hostage by the advertisers (perhaps Sorkin could also be inspired by that. it looked like he wished that he could say what he wants, but can’t)
What if Musk started a Free Speech Foundation (it could also be called the first amendment foundation). He does not have to fight this battle alone. Substantially all donations would be spent on advertising (for the foundation) on X. The balance could be spent on educational programs at school (all the way up to Universities) where students would be taught about the history of free speech in various countries. The reason for the existence of the first amendment. Court cases around the first amendment…
I am not suggesting to turn X into a NPO. I mean the guy spent too much for this platform. That could potentially compensate for some of the lost revenues. Wokes buy stuff (so they have advertisers in their pocket), but non wokes have discretionary income which they can direct where they want.
The game would become more equal/fair.
I personally believe that this is an important battle.
lawyers/tax people, feel free to chime in as to potential legality and possibility for this solution.
trust fund kid who inherited an emerald mind and has been failing upwards his whole life tells corporate media to f*ck off. what a badass!
With such a real "falling upwards" nadir of the "born-on-third-base" set so readily available in the public eye, let's not go after a genuinely bright and accomplished but troubled, socially-ill-adept man-child with such zeal.
The root problem here is that Elon bought Twitter for “social” reasons
He wanted to reduce the amount of “media” manipulation of the current government before the next election
He wanted to help maintain freedom of speech
That is a life mission, not a business
He had no interest in selling ads for the next Disney movie, which is really Twitter’s business
Purposes we’re not aligned
Unless there is something completely different here that I am missing
Here is a potential solution to the “problem”.
How to promote free speech without being held hostage by the advertisers (perhaps Sorkin could also be inspired by that. it looked like he wished that he could say what he wants, but can’t)
What if Musk started a Free Speech Foundation (it could also be called the first amendment foundation). He does not have to fight this battle alone. Substantially all donations would be spent on advertising (for the foundation) on X. The balance could be spent on educational programs at school (all the way up to Universities) where students would be taught about the history of free speech in various countries. The reason for the existence of the first amendment. Court cases around the first amendment…
I am not suggesting to turn X into a NPO. I mean the guy spent too much for this platform. That could potentially compensate for some of the lost revenues. Wokes buy stuff (so they have advertisers in their pocket), but non wokes have discretionary income which they can direct where they want.
The game would become more equal/fair.
I personally believe that this is an important battle.
lawyers/tax people, feel free to chime in as to potential legality and possibility for this solution.
I expect that establishing a foundation and then having that foundation spend a bulk of its money on the founder's for-profit entity will result will result in a taxable foundation to which gifts will not be tax-deductible.
Huge multinational companies with hundreds of billons of dollars at their disposal and the backing of the world's larges corrupt banks (and even more corrupt central banks / governments) in their corner go after a guy with less money and resources (who is probably also tied up with some of the more exploitative financial concerns), and he tells them to go kick rocks.
If it isn't all theater just to make people think there is dissent in the billionaire ranks, then it is pretty awesome.
And even it if it theater, it sure as hell beats the manufactured consensus that makes up most mass-media . One can only hope it prompts people to have deeper conversations about what is going on between government, mass media, and various parts of the population.
Then of course there's the 'troll' aspect: the worst and most murderous things in the world tend to be done with an air of politeness. Like "hey I get that Trump started less wars than any other president in our lifetimes, but he just isn't polite enough" -- implication being that you can be a mass-murdering crony and still be called 'presidential' long as you stay on script.
Likewise, Disney and their homies at CAA can brainwash generations of kids with anti-family messaging and then attempt to intimidate actors into being silent during mass murder as long as their executives stick to the script.
Apple can depend on sweatshop labor and censor their most popular apps in service to the regime, but as long as Tim Cook shows up for interviews with answers cleared by his legal team, somehow that becomes respectable or even standard corporate behavior.
The fact that Musk's comments were met with predictable name-calling instead of requests for a deeper conversation sure is telling.
Musk gave no indication that he was trying to spark deeper conversations. He came off as challenging the advertisers to support him or risk being blamed for destroying the platform. He sat on the stage preening and shrugging and repeating his FU rather than stating a case for the advertiser's continues support. He is certainly entitled to say "my way or the highway". But like everyone else who says that, he has no right to complain when people take the highway.
Then of course there's the 'troll' aspect: the worst and most murderous things in the world tend to be done with an air of politeness. Like "hey I get that Trump started less wars than any other president in our lifetimes, but he just isn't polite enough" -- implication being that you can be a mass-murdering crony and still be called 'presidential' long as you stay on script....
The fact that Musk's comments were met with predictable name-calling instead of requests for a deeper conversation sure is telling.
You're absolutely right that an "air of politeness" often accompanies the worst actions. But of course (and you never suggested this; you even offered a hope contrary to it) civility isn't always a mask. So why must the balance tilt in a way like politeness masking atrocity, exposed by an ostensible troll, so that those in the first case must maintain their civility for "deeper conversation"? Man, for PR-savvy "smile, and smile, and be a villain" types, the "name-calling" isn't always predictable. And you know that calling an anti-semitic stance anti-semitic isn't the same as "name-calling," any more than your willingness to attach the moniker of "troll" is calling it like you see it, if with a different perspective.
How about this?
Let's consider a guy who spends a lot of time prodding and provoking in coarse way on many topics. He fancies himself an iconoclast and contrarian. Some think he's a jerk.
He plays FAaFO with antisemitism and remains sometimes glib in a political climate where lots of people on both sides are horrified by violence and in a country (and world) in which antisemitism has led to numerous credible threats of violence.
Then in a public forum, his answer to a set of detractors is FU.
WHY, OH WHY, I wonder, do the ravenous wolves reject an invitation to "deeper conversation"?
