BLM promises more looting if racist vaccine requirements continue

breit leit wrote:

Cog Diss Much? wrote:

Wrong. It's a thread with several consistently obtuse liberals, like yourself, failing to address the "gotcha" -- i.e., conundrum -- that clearly does exist, and engaging in various dodges solely because they can't bring themselves to violate what sadly has become Liberal Rule No. 1 -- never contradict anything BLM says or does.

Stopped here because as I already pointed out - that "gotcha" doesn't actually exist. If you'll take the time to read my short post, you'll see that I said "essentially everyone should get the vaccine".

Yeah, I'm sure your stopped there, because the next paragraph was not one you wanted to address. Proving my point.

Here is a quote from the paragraph you admittedly couldn't bring yourself to read: "Is BLM correct when it claims that the vaccine requirements (e.g., must show vaccine card to sit inside a restaurant) are a racist tool to keep black people out of various places? "

I also posted "I'm betting you won't ever answer that." I was correct, at least this far. You could it now, but I'm betting you won't.

You cite Roe v. Wade as proof that "society" does not consider a human fetus a person. Yet even many legal scholars on the Left don't make that claim and, further, repudiate or are highly critical of Roe v. Wade. Laurence Tribe and Alan Dershowitz are salient examples. And many repudiate Roe on procedural grounds, arguing that the US Supreme Court usurped the rights of states to legislate on the matter, thus causing an imbalance in the balance of powers among the three branches of government. In fact, Roe v. Wade is rather like Dred Scott v. Sanford. Both cases ended with 7-2 votes. Both cases resulted in innocent human beings being treated not as persons but as property, property to be killed or enslaved. The Dred Scott decision was overturned by the 13th and 14th Amendments. Roe may be overturned.

We should note that abortion in the USA is in many ways closer to abortion in China, Russia, and North Korea, all strongholds of human rights violations, than to abortion in Western Europe where direct abortion is mostly forbidden after the fetus reaches 12 weeks age. (I don't think there is any stage of fetal development at which justice is meted out to a human fetus killed by abortion).

And one might very reasonably think that the onus probandi - the burden of proof - should be on those advocating for direct abortion to demonstrate that the human beings the procedures kill are not persons. Good luck proving that. There are whackddoodles such as Peter Singer at Princeton and a frequent contributor to the New York Times claiming that infants as old as about 30 months are not persons and mothers should be allowed to kill them. What we do know now is that many of the living unborn human beings killed via abortion often experience excruciating pain. No "society" permitting that torturous vivisection should be considered civilized.

You haven’t countered a thing I said. You can talk about legal scholars or one random person from Princeton, I am talking about hundreds of millions of people.

If the Supreme Court ruled you could murder toddlers the building would torn apart by a mob consisting of people from both sides of the aisle.

The same hasn’t been done in 50 years with fetuses and that is proof that the vast majority of people do not consider fetuses to be people.

I’m not telling you what to think. You may even be a part of a small community that is very angry about abortion and you know lots of people who would profess that fetuses = people. I’m telling that’s peanuts. Use your eyes, look around you, and understand that in 50 years there has been no groundswell movement. You are free to believe but you want but you are in the minority here.

You claim that 50 years of direct abortion proves that few believe in fetal personhood. Does it follow then that the much longer period of slavery in the USA proves that few believed in the personhood of slaves? People have enslaved or murdered people throughout history, often while fully believing in the personhood of those enslaved or murdered. People often do things they know or believe to be wrong. I've had acquaintances tell me abortion is wrong but that in not very unusual circumstances they would resort to it.

Yes, thank you. People did not believe in the personhood of slaves. They even enshrined it in the U.S. constitution. You get it.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Cog Diss Much? wrote:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-york-blm-leader-promises-national-uprising-over-racist-vaccine-mandates-similar

This stuff is great: “The vaccination passport is not a free passport to racism.”

The cognitive dissonance in liberal minds spikes here. Is there a multi-nuanced way to reconcile all this? I don't see even a winding path to daylight.

Looks like we have a classic SJW virtue signaling stand-off

The “everything is racist crowd” vs The “you will kill grandma crowd”

Sit back and watch the left eat itself.

I’ll order the pizza you bring a six pack.

energeticlotuseater: The mandated vaccination is the white man's attempt to infantilize the black man to subjugate the black man. Don't let the whitesplaining convince you that this mandate is right. The white man will never understand the black man and this mandate proves it.

black guy: But the government is telling both whites and blacks that the vaccination can save lives, why do you think that's racist? It could save black lives.

energeticlotuseater: Saving lives is not important here, the white is trying to rob you of your dignity. Don't be part of the racist movement.

black guy: But it seems like they are just trying to keep us healthy what's wrong with that? These vaccine mandates needed to work are for whites and blacks, I don't see it as racist.

energeticlotuseater: No it is racist, we have endured so much, you need to be angry at them trying to get you to get vaccinated.

black guy: Sorry I have to go, I hate racism but think its smart for me to get vaccinated and I hope everyone blacks and whites get vaccinated. Sorry I feel that way.

Yes those awful liberal minds, the ones that stormed the Capitol and tried to end democracy. Evil.

Cog Diss Much? wrote:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-york-blm-leader-promises-national-uprising-over-racist-vaccine-mandates-similar

This stuff is great: “The vaccination passport is not a free passport to racism.”

The cognitive dissonance in liberal minds spikes here. Is there a multi-nuanced way to reconcile all this? I don't see even a winding path to daylight.

Organic apple cider vinegar with the mother. 2 Tablespoons a day. That stuff attacks viruses. Also I eat healthy and exercise. I’m younger, thinner, and have no lung issues. No covid vax and have never been healthier.

In contrast my father got the covid vax and got cancer soon afterwards. We’re seeing an increase in cancer with the vaxed. Not surprising because it messes with your immune system and there’s no long term studies.

2600 bro wrote:

The far edges of both the left and right wing have a hilarious penchant for self-immolation.

Except that BLM is a group endorsed by mainstream lefties. The majority of those on the left support BLM. Vaccine mandates are also a mainstream lefty thing. You don't see the mainstream right at war with itself.

What we are seeing is the left's culture war about to reach a climax because we finally have a situation where major groups in the woke have diverging agendas. You have SJW bros about to go to war with the vaccine bros. I cannot wait to enjoy this.

Once again, African-Americans simply want to reclaim their bodily autonomy so they can choose to get the vaccine if they do desire.

African-Americans have been denied their bodily autonomy by the whites throughout most of their history in this country which is why they are particularly sensitive to a bunch of mostly old white men telling them what to do and not to do with their bodies. This is why black rights groups like BLM are anti-vaccine mandate and not necessarily anti-vaccine.

My post extends to all POC, who have all been part of a larger victimized group in America. This is why all racial minorities (Africans, Asians, Hispanics, etc) should be granted the bodily autonomy they were denied in the past and be exempt from all vaccine & mask mandates.

runnerboy70 wrote:

The biggest threat to our country is not white supremacists....It's violent nut-jobs like this.

Really?

Wikipedia: "Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American domestic terrorist responsible for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people, 19 of whom were children, and injured more than 680 others, and destroyed one third of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The bombing was the deadliest act of terrorism in the United States prior to the September 11 attacks. It remains one of the deadliest acts of domestic terrorism in U.S. history."

Light the blue touch paper wrote:

runnerboy70 wrote:

The biggest threat to our country is not white supremacists....It's violent nut-jobs like this.

Really?

Wikipedia: "Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American domestic terrorist responsible for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people, 19 of whom were children, and injured more than 680 others, and destroyed one third of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The bombing was the deadliest act of terrorism in the United States prior to the September 11 attacks. It remains one of the deadliest acts of domestic terrorism in U.S. history."

25 individuals have died during the BLM inspired George Floyd protests, most of those individuals were people of color. Ironically and sadly the BLM inspired protests have been responsible for way more African-American deaths than white neo-nazis

Obviously she didn't call for looting. I didn't read the entire thread and maybe this was pointed out, but her calling for an uprising doesn't mean anyone will show up. It will take another Floyd like video to motivate protesters.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Light the blue touch paper wrote:

Really?

Wikipedia: "Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American domestic terrorist responsible for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people, 19 of whom were children, and injured more than 680 others, and destroyed one third of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The bombing was the deadliest act of terrorism in the United States prior to the September 11 attacks. It remains one of the deadliest acts of domestic terrorism in U.S. history."

25 individuals have died during the BLM inspired George Floyd protests, most of those individuals were people of color. Ironically and sadly the BLM inspired protests have been responsible for way more African-American deaths than white neo-nazis

I see you grew tired of the facade and went back to blasting BLM.

conservative straw man tactic wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

25 individuals have died during the BLM inspired George Floyd protests, most of those individuals were people of color. Ironically and sadly the BLM inspired protests have been responsible for way more African-American deaths than white neo-nazis

I see you grew tired of the facade and went back to blasting BLM.

I can agree with BLM and their goal of Black spiritual & bodily autonomy and not agree with them in regard to other tactics or philosophical view points.

Do you just mindlessly follow the platform of your chosen political party? I sure as heck don’t.

I don't think looting is a good idea, it will reinforce negative stereotypes of blacks wanting to steal. And it is not fair to the MAJORITY of Blacks who don't steal.

Wasnt BLM fictitiously created by Russian trolls like wellll before the whole George Floyd thing occurred? (several yrs prior)

Probably one of their Psyops campaigns to cause unrest.