Molly Seidel's airplane story

Classic LRC thread. Passionately arguing about something woefully unimportant.

I'm glad there are some balanced takes in LRC. A lot of Twitter and the mainstream automatically labels the male as the bad guy in this case (he very may well be) but LRC is more charitable, honestly. A lot of the feminist types are angry and automatically (not always) pass things off like this as mansplaining.

That said, if the guy was in her face and bragging, and Molly was cringing, then they have legit concerns. We just don't know.

not zuckerberg wrote:

I'm glad there are some balanced takes in LRC. A lot of Twitter and the mainstream automatically labels the male as the bad guy in this case (he very may well be) but LRC is more charitable, honestly. A lot of the feminist types are angry and automatically (not always) pass things off like this as mansplaining.

That said, if the guy was in her face and bragging, and Molly was cringing, then they have legit concerns. We just don't know.

interesting

Oh the drama, oh the outrage! Woke-istan must be an exhausting place to carry on - so much injustice, so little time...

[ Fast Women is a hangout for Women that have spent their lives being rejected by Men. I am a Woman.

Fox News is for the extreme right. Fast Women is for rejected Women.

Er...um...I am a 43 year old man and I enjoy reading fast women every week.

xczvzxcv wrote:

That is hilarious. She should absolutely have busted him on it. But I think that it has been completely misanalyzed where the commenters were saying that he was man-splaining. Yes, he was, but he was unusual here in actually deriving his advice directly from a woman (from Seidel's training), which he held as the model for how she, his seatmate, should train. So, maybe he was really woman-splaining, accepting the practices of a woman as a model for how a person should train.

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I would add, that, it doesn't sound like she explained her training to him and then he corrected her, or invalidated her opinion. He put forth another woman's practices as an example of expertise. I would like to propose that this fellow be acknowledged as a champion of feminism.

Or, that this is just a funny anecdote about two people making pleasant small talk on an airplane -- one of the more awkward places to interact with other humans -- and the world doesn't need to freak out about its social and political implications.

hedge fund manager wrote:

landon wrote:

That's not the vibe I got from the tweet. Just because someone gives you advice doesn't mean they think they know more than you.

Wasn't the guy admitting that Molly Seidel and/or her coach knows more? And as it turns out, his 'advice' (we don't even know what was said or how it was said) was correct. I just can't understand how there could be any outrage over a running enthusiast sharing an analysis he did of the training of the top American female runner with another runner, female or otherwise. I do think it was pretty terrible that Molly didn't tell him it was her, probably would have been a lifetime memory for him.

The best of LRC are discussions of things that never happened , or Alien/UFO tales.

GTR wrote:

[ Fast Women is a hangout for Women that have spent their lives being rejected by Men. I am a Woman.

Fox News is for the extreme right. Fast Women is for rejected Women.

Er...um...I am a 43 year old man and I enjoy reading fast women every week.

Or you are a rejected woman .

not zuckerberg wrote:

I'm glad there are some balanced takes in LRC. A lot of Twitter and the mainstream automatically labels the male as the bad guy in this case (he very may well be) but LRC is more charitable, honestly. A lot of the feminist types are angry and automatically (not always) pass things off like this as mansplaining.

That said, if the guy was in her face and bragging, and Molly was cringing, then they have legit concerns. We just don't know.

I genuinely don’t understand the backlash against posters who have suggested that this does not seem credible for any number of reasons. I think that this is a much more likely scenario than some of the pretzel logic explanations that people are twisting themselves into.

llort_vbo wrote:

I genuinely don’t understand the backlash against posters who have suggested that this does not seem credible for any number of reasons.

The backlash is because WGAF - it's a silly and insignificant thing to argue about whether or not it was a 100% accurate story.

The only thing we've learned is that Seidel reads LR.

Fake news!

Oh boy….today she posted that she lost a race to her little cousin and had to give her bronze medal away as the stakes. You all better get your panties in a bunch on how accurate that story is!!!

jdufurhdhdd wrote:

Bebop boys wrote:

This is a weird story to make up.

It's an even weirder story to be true.

Dude supposedly did an in depth analysis of her training, then he supposedly had it "on his phone," then he was sitting next to her, then he brought up running, then he didn't realize it was her, then he felt compelled to pull out his phone to show her his analysis? Then she didn't bother to tell him it was her training?

That is an awful lot of unlikely events. I think she's making it up for likes and retweets

It's weirder the way you spin it and phrase it like it. Simpler explanation: Someone who runs happened to sit next to a pro runner on a plane and they got to talking about training. They wore masks so he didn't know it was. Thats basically it. Its an unusual story but not a suspicious one.

One of my own: I ran in HS. Like 10 years after, Im hiking 100s of miles away from my hometown. I bump into woman on mountain and we started talking on way down. Turns out she ran and went to a school near mine like a 8 years before me. I knew name of a fast girl, X, who went there then and said, "Oh...you must know X" She laughed, "I'm X".

Its basically the same thing that happened to Siedel: Happened to be talking about person you're talking to without knowing. Coincidences happen. Again, unusual. Sure. But not suspicious.

lEale wrote:

The only thing we've learned is that Seidel reads LR.

How do we know that?