Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

If you hold out for perfection then you're gonna be disappointed.

Sometimes being relegated to footnotes of history 100 years from now is more powerful than convictions on whatever laundry list of nearly impossible to prove intent based crimes you have cooked up.

He won't go to jail, he'll just be remembered eternally as a big fvcking loser, which is what he deserves. Just forget about him, it's over. Done. There's more important things coming up ahead and Trump is, in every way possible, nothing but the past.

nonequals wrote:

nonequals wrote:

At the moment, top three across the webpage: Covid numbers down, UPenn swimmer, Aubrey killer

Update: COVID numbers, UPenn swimmer, and now "Mitt Romney criticizes RNC over resolution to censure Kinzinger and Cheney"

Fox may also cover the third one, of course. One or more visitors suggesting to "Hang Mitt Romney," perhaps !!

CNN: "RNC calls events of January 6 'legitimate political discourse' in Cheney, Kinzinger censure"

Not really anything new learned, but still a tidy little reminder that one of 2 parties has lost EVERY shred of credibility.

R Party: Our capital was stormed by Americans and our President tried to steal his election. But no, there's nothing to investigate. And if you participate, you're excommunicated.

Cult? Dictatorship? Banana Republic? All of the above?

Thread Trumpers: THIS is the alternative to your false bogeyman Biden.

Prof. Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

CORRECT! The bold part of your post above is especially important.

If you hold out for perfection then you're gonna be disappointed.

Sometimes being relegated to footnotes of history 100 years from now is more powerful than convictions on whatever laundry list of nearly impossible to prove intent based crimes you have cooked up.

He won't go to jail, he'll just be remembered eternally as a big fvcking loser, which is what he deserves. Just forget about him, it's over. Done. There's more important things coming up ahead and Trump is, in every way possible, nothing but the past.

except his party will stop all investigations of Trump in around 10 months, and instead impeach and investigate Biden.

and then Trrump is the guy most likely to be the next president of the united states, having learned how to manipulate the levers of power in DC and put his flunkies at DOJ and DOD.

Far from the past, he is the future, most likely.

Sort of makes prosecuting him more important, right?

Prof. Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

CORRECT! The bold part of your post above is especially important.

If you hold out for perfection then you're gonna be disappointed.

Sometimes being relegated to footnotes of history 100 years from now is more powerful than convictions on whatever laundry list of nearly impossible to prove intent based crimes you have cooked up.

He won't go to jail, he'll just be remembered eternally as a big fvcking loser, which is what he deserves. Just forget about him, it's over. Done. There's more important things coming up ahead and Trump is, in every way possible, nothing but the past.

I think that legal "perfection" would be him having been convicted of every crime he's committed since he probably started committing crimes as a sociopathic silver-spooner teenager a LONG time ago.

We're talking about a way, way, way lower bar than that. That's certainly not too much to ask.

BUT, if we're going to accept that Presidents (and billionaires with too many lawyers?) really are above the law, can we at LEAST make it a misdemeanor to ever again speak the words, "In America, NO ONE is above the law" ???

The Trump Era has really shown that to be bogus.....at least so far.

Ihatejoe wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot - Hunter Biden's emails!!!!!

Why do liberals not care about this? His laptop showed him to be a despicable human being and one who was clearly using his father's name to grift his way through life. He keeps getting richer and richer through no personal ability of his own, even his horrible art made him more money in a short time than I will make in my lifetime. Both Hunter's and Ashley's intimate revelations show real problems in the Biden household. The whole family makes me sick to the stomach. The smartest person Joe has ever met-my@ss.

Exactly!

Hunter Biden's emails, everyone!!!

Ihatejoe wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot - Hunter Biden's emails!!!!!

Why do liberals not care about this? His laptop showed him to be a despicable human being and one who was clearly using his father's name to grift his way through life. He keeps getting richer and richer through no personal ability of his own, even his horrible art made him more money in a short time than I will make in my lifetime. Both Hunter's and Ashley's intimate revelations show real problems in the Biden household. The whole family makes me sick to the stomach. The smartest person Joe has ever met-my@ss.

It's probably REALLY easy to explain.

I haven't followed the Hunter story at all. If and when it's clear that the father did something bad, I will.

But let's say you're 100% correct about Hunter.

It's someone's kid. Lots of people have bad kids. We don't treat it as news related to the parent(s)' job(s).

Pretty simple.

And, of course, you have the added stupidity and hypocrisy of MOST of the folks concerned about Hunter's character literally flying the flag of someone who almost certainly makes Hunter look like a Boy Scout in comparison. They're MUCH more concerned about the f****** kid of a president than they ever were or are about the MORE f****** president who proceeded him. The idiocy is bottomless.

But you knew that.

Good on Pence.

he's setting himself up as an alternative should the GOP decide not be a division of the Trump Organization.

NEW from Pence: "President Trump is wrong"

"I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone."

nonequals wrote:

I think that legal "perfection" would be him having been convicted of every crime he's committed since he probably started committing crimes as a sociopathic silver-spooner teenager a LONG time ago.

We're talking about a way, way, way lower bar than that. That's certainly not too much to ask.

Garland's DOJ decided not to prosecute Trump on the obstruction of justice charge described in the Mueller report. And many people think this is because Trump will be prosecuted by NYS anyway. But I think there is an alternative explanation. Trump could be eventually indicted of a sedition charge, and Garland saw that possibility from the start. That may be the reason he decided not to pursue the obstruction charge.

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

nonequals wrote:

I think that legal "perfection" would be him having been convicted of every crime he's committed since he probably started committing crimes as a sociopathic silver-spooner teenager a LONG time ago.

We're talking about a way, way, way lower bar than that. That's certainly not too much to ask.

Garland's DOJ decided not to prosecute Trump on the obstruction of justice charge described in the Mueller report. And many people think this is because Trump will be prosecuted by NYS anyway. But I think there is an alternative explanation. Trump could be eventually indicted of a sedition charge, and Garland saw that possibility from the start. That may be the reason he decided not to pursue the obstruction charge.

there's a very low chance trump will be prosecuted on the federal level. And if he was, the next GOP president would pardon him on day one. Fed prosecution of a former president on sort of vague charges is just not a thing. 'obstruction' is not a black/white crime.

He could be prosecuted in NY and GA, but I suspect there is no jury the peachtree state that would ever convict el jefe. Probably a jury in NY would do it. But chances are that will be civil, not criminal. so it won't hurt his political life.

I am sure CNN, MSNBC, ny times, Post and the rest of the mainstream media will be covering this. The NYC mayor saying he kicked those crackers' asses.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-adams-uses-racial-slur-unearthed-video-policing

agip wrote:

Good on Pence.

he's setting himself up as an alternative should the GOP decide not be a division of the Trump Organization.

NEW from Pence: "President Trump is wrong"

"I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone."

How far we've fallen if (well, not really "if") the 5-years-plus faithful toadie of the autocrat ends up being seen as a profile in courage.....

But hey, I've been asleep for the last 6 years. The Rs will SURELY pay a BIG political price for not finding someone better than that, RIGHT ??

If only.....

nonequals wrote:

agip wrote:

Good on Pence.

he's setting himself up as an alternative should the GOP decide not be a division of the Trump Organization.

NEW from Pence: "President Trump is wrong"

"I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone."

How far we've fallen if (well, not really "if") the 5-years-plus faithful toadie of the autocrat ends up being seen as a profile in courage.....

But hey, I've been asleep for the last 6 years. The Rs will SURELY pay a BIG political price for not finding someone better than that, RIGHT ??

If only.....

Pence's the emperor has no clothes moment.

Prof. Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

CORRECT! The bold part of your post above is especially important.

If you hold out for perfection then you're gonna be disappointed.

Sometimes being relegated to footnotes of history 100 years from now is more powerful than convictions on whatever laundry list of nearly impossible to prove intent based crimes you have cooked up.

He won't go to jail, he'll just be remembered eternally as a big fvcking loser, which is what he deserves. Just forget about him, it's over. Done. There's more important things coming up ahead and Trump is, in every way possible, nothing but the past.

Perfection is long past. Perfection would have been that morons in this country wouldn't have voted him into office in the first place...and then other things that have come and gone are TWO impeachments that should have gone to conviction. I mean, I knew they wouldn't, but he did the things he was accused of, and he should have been removed from office. There are things all along his miserable life that should have cut him off at the knees, from racial discrimination and racist comments to all kinds of fraud that he paid his way out of or played the legal long game out of.

I reject that his crimes can't be proven. He's a criminal. He belongs in prison.

CORRECT!

agip wrote:

Good on Pence.

he's setting himself up as an alternative should the GOP decide not be a division of the Trump Organization.

NEW from Pence: "President Trump is wrong"

"I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone."

Yeah, Good on Pence. He had no shot at winning the Presidency though. The nutbar Trumpers hate him, and he makes Al Gore look like the most interesting man in the world. I'm not sure there's a politician out there with less charisma. Unfortunately, alternatives to Trump are likely DeSantis and some other Trump apologists. As bad as they would be in the White House though, NONE of them are as bold and lawless as Trump, so ANY Republican in the White House in the near future is a MAJOR upgrade from Trump.

For Pence to state this in front of the Federalist S. is kind of a big deal. It could be self preservation. His aids just testified to the 1/6 committee so he may know what is coming around the corner for Trump.

Are you tired of winning yet?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-defendants-keep-losing-190939629.html

I mean he is literally a traitor to the US and to the Constitution, so I'm not necessarily disagreeing here on principle.

In my opinion, the most powerful conviction was on Election Day when Americans showed up to the polls in record numbers. That matters to me more than him to going to jail now, and I think it matters the most to our history and the health of the democracy.

I won't be complaining if he gets locked up though.

Ok.