There is no “genetic superiority” when it comes to distance running. Literally everyone sub 2:09 is just doping.

So you haven't noticed that there were certain other posters - doping deniers and Kenyan doping apologists (rekrunner and slowwer come to mind) - equally not giving an inch. So what is your advice to them? Oh, wait - you agree with them.

They are facts. You have nothing that proves the contrary.

Don't worry, I'll check back in a couple of years on page 3000 to see how you're doing.

Unless you can provide supporting external quotes from recognized authorities, nothing you invent on your own can be considered as fact.

For example, contrary to your "if it were so" fantasy scenario, how would Kenyans be in any position to dispute or correct Coe? Even less than the AIU and Coe, Kenyans simply would not have access to complete data from ADAMs, or NADOs, or RADOs, for other non-Kenyan countries and athletes. Not only is that pure fantasy, it makes no rational sense.

The fact is that Coe can only speak as an authority for the WA/AIU, and the AIU tells us each year their testing is neither complete, nor uniform. Their testing is supplemental.

In order to confirm, corroborate, dispute, or correct Coe's verbal statement provided to the press, without basis or context, we will need to wait for WADA to publish complete data when they produce their 2022 ADRV report with input from all WADA signatories combined.

Stubborn like a mule.

Besides already providing many AIU published facts about the AIU and how they strategically bias their testing as a function of the product of high performance and suspected doping, and how they don't report NADOs and RADOs testing, perhaps the next best approximation of 2022 facts and figures is to look at WADA's testing report for 2021, just published in January 2023. On page 201, we can find statistics for athletics.

Out of a total of 181 "AAFs" in the sport of Athletics, here are some selected entries of AAFs by ADO:

- AIU: 28 - 15.5%

- AKAD: 9 - 4.97%

- USADA: 20 - 11.0%

- RUSADA: 13 - 7.18%

- India: 16 - 8.84%

- Kazahkhstan - 7 - 3.87%

- Nigeria: 5 - 2.76%

Some 2021 facts:

- 40% of 181 AAFs would be 72. The AIU, AKAD, USADA, and RUSADA combined gives 70.

- Supposing Kenya was 100% of the AIU's AAFs, this gives a worst case of 37/181 AAFs, or 20.4%.

- On the other end of the spectrum, if only 40% of AIU AAFs are Kenyan, this means AIU had 11 Kenyan positives, for a total of 20/181, or 11% (similar to the 12% WADA reported for Kenyan ADRVs in 2019). As far as nations go, this compares to the nations like the USA, and India (not counting AIU AAF's).

- Given WADA will probably publish their 2022 testing report probably next year, and their 2022 ADRV report the following year, anything Coe says in November 2022, about 2022, would surely be premature.

Conclusion: assuming Coe knows what 40% means, Armstronglivs surely doesn't.

I have never denied doping in any way - never. But I extremely deny your and your equally mad friends view, that Kenyan success is the sole result of doping.

Not giving an inch? It's true, I'm not giving an inch to pure facts like
Kenyans
- have set 10 world records in 1964 -1980, more than any other country
- have won 12 Olympic medals in the track events in the four Olympics before 1980, more than any other country (despite the 76 boycott)
that
- it's some hard to comprehend nonsense to call both Clarke and Vasala "faster" than Keino
- your position regarding doping (almost anybody at the top is doping, the majority of non East Africans trying to reach the top legitimately) is pure nonsense
- you are a pure lyer (Kenyans have set 2 world records and so on)
- you never admit when beeing wrong
And so much more.
It's not that we are disagreeing in some opinion based subject (like - which runner has had the better career: Keino or Clarke?). You are denying facts.

But not an ass, like some here.

That will be a break from your private correspondence with rekrunner.

I have never debated whether Keino or Clarke had the better career. That is the ground you moved discussion to in order to deflect from the fact that Clarke was "faster" than Keino - despite your false claim no one was - on the basis that Clarke's world records were far superior to Keino's best times over those distances. Furthermore, anyone who beat Keino in a championship final - as Vasala did - had to be "faster" in order to do so. But none of that is a debate about who had the best career. It's a simple point but clearly beyond some.

There are no winners left. Just 2 - 4 trolls trying to outtroll each other.

I'll check back in four weeks to see the last troll standing.

The trolls are Kenyan doping apologists and deniers.

You havn't underestood also this: no, you have never debated whether Keino or Clarke had the better career - and I have not said you did. But this COULD be debated, both were great runners with fantastic achievements.
If Clarke was "faster" than Keino is not debatable - the statement is complete nonsense and only holds true if we also accept that Keino was faster than Clarke. But this could be explained to you one hundred times and you would not get it or would not admit if you got it.
I don't know how many times you have given your "arguments" ("13.16 > "13.24") now for Clarke "faster" Keino - without saying something to the facts that Keino is much much faster than Clarke over 1500m, is faster over 3000m/2 Miles, has beaten him 4 times in a row at the big championships over 5000m. And so on.
But it's good to expose your madness and more and more letsrunners can see what's behind your "reasoning" (almost anyone at the top is doping, non Kenyans are mostly trying to reach the top legitimately).
Any great performance (a 3:55 Mile by a 16 years old) and you think letsrun needs your doping accusations.

I don't need to make doping accusations. The facts - especially about Kenya - speak for themselves. 40% of athletics doping positives in 2022.

Your English is such that you don't know what the word "faster" means. A stopwatch does not lie.

I agree with you that your accusations are unnecesary, and don't speak for the facts.

The AIU and WADA have yet to publish these facts for 2022.

Notably Ethiopia only recorded 1 AAF, or 0.55% of all WADA reported AAFs in 2021.

Lord Coe has. So he has no authority to speak on these matters? No one in any official capacity has corrected him and Kenya has not disputed his statement. That leaves fantasists like you, who have nothing that says he is wrong.