Describe Your Running Today, Part II

driske,

hobble is regressing. Heartfelt thank-you for your well wishing.

The most important aspect of injury is to figure out the "how" and the "why." And luckily, just like a good workout, i nailed both.

And that is why "it" feels like i just need to be a little bit more patient and then i can start my barefoot and minimalist running again... I suppose, that's a mental workout in itself...

By the way, the hobble-regression is possibly also related to the practice of making fun of my barefoot running-self, describing my swimming as taking place wih barehands... until somebody comes with swimming gloves...

no running today. swimming if family time expands...

...for the above, I am assuming you are referring to a "twinge" for lack of better terms to describe my betterment of injury...

driske wrote:

tpcb,

You mention barehands swimming; elaborate please.Hope your hobble is regressing to a twinge.

Bride and I went that same 20 as Sat. this time in 1:27.

My legs always feel so good after a bike ride.

Correct assumption, twinges come and go, "hobbles" are a response and pain avoidance technique, addressing a problem of greater portent.

6.2 miles in 55 minutes. Steady state effort, HR 135 avg.

Spring is here, the,fragrance of flowering crab trees won out over the fields coated with cow manure.

you wise old man you, driske... If only i could be as unabridged... never too late to learn...I AM getting better. But the best part is having figured out how i injured myself...

driske wrote:

Correct assumption, twinges come and go, "hobbles" are a response and pain avoidance technique, addressing a problem of greater portent.

6.2 miles in 55 minutes. Steady state effort, HR 135 avg.

Spring is here, the,fragrance of flowering crab trees won out over the fields coated with cow manure.

Knowerer wrote:

Skuj wrote:

Thanks "Knowerer". Hey, you're mellowing.

Perhaps, but you're still either paranoid or very self-centered.

Today, immediately after arising from a nap, I did a 46min session thusly:

0 to 30min = wake-up jog.

31min, 32min, 33min, 34min = start a 20sec stride, rest 40sec.

35min = start a 37sec surge at 800m-ish pace.

36min to 46min = cooldown jog.

Skuj wrote:

Today, immediately after arising from a nap, I did a 46min session thusly:

0 to 30min = wake-up jog.

31min, 32min, 33min, 34min = start a 20sec stride, rest 40sec.

35min = start a 37sec surge at 800m-ish pace.

36min to 46min = cooldown jog.

That's pretty much a 46 minute glorified jog, Skuj. Nothing wrong with that, but you really don't need to go into that much detail for a jog. Keep it simple, man.

Next time, try this (my run from Wednesday):

20 minute jog, 3 x 60 sec on/off, 4 x 45 sec on/off, 5 x 30 sec on/off, 20 minuite jog

That's a better workout than your big jog and gives you that little extra oomph for you training without being too strenuous. Perfect for us old farts, eh? Have fun.

40 glorious minutes of swimming; more hypoxic laps...start with breathing every 5, the 7, then 9 strokes...eventually you start to wonder if you could sorta end it all, right there and then...

Between my wifes pursuit of breaking into the world of triathletes and your role modeling I was prompted to take a swim yesterday PM. 24x25yds left me thoughly trashed, time of 30 minutes with necessary breaks. Lots of hypoxia, none of it scheduled.

May 29 PM, 10 miles on the bike, too blustery to be any fun. 30 minutes in the pool.Bushed by the days end.

May30, AM, 3.2 miles in 27:20, steady effort. 5 striders to wrap it up. 110 ascending to 220 yds.35 seconds for the 220.

Enjoyed having my partime training partner along for the jaunt this morning.

5 days off, then 4 miles on Wednesday.....took another accidental day off Thursday (no time to run).....another one today with a late afternoon and evening track meet (coaching).....planning to run sat. and sun.......stay tuned

Ran for 2:12, 22 miles at near 6 pace per mile. Rested yesterday.

The trolls have been active, I see. :-)

Wednesday: easy 75', lifting

Thursday: 20' w/u, 6 x 1200 @ 100% vVO2max, 30' c/d (got to get used to the warmer temps, take more H2O)

Friday: 45' recovery jog (a little leg weary)

Saturday: TBA

Keep up the good work, all!

driske, you crack me up...

driske wrote: Lots of hypoxia, none of it scheduled..

kids athletics. Worked out some new games, and ways to use boxes for obstacle courses...but can't quite tend to the kids by example... still hobbling around...better.. but still hobbling... luckily have some vacation time coming up...

Hiya folks. This is copied directly from our forum (which Running Dogg knows so well - I couldn't resist) so my apologies for the strange names and place mentions:

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I'm thrilled with what we did on our time-trial at the track today:

I jogged 28:45 from home to the sport center, then I did 5x100m in spikes (22-20-18-17-17) + a couple of short "start-strides" + 800m vs Frankybitch + 800m vs Diane.

Keith began the festivities with a very controlled "test" 400m, not crazy-like, and he was thrilled with how 73 felt.

Then me and Franky were up. I knew that I was going to lead, and that Franky would hang on, and then try to go by me late in the game. I don't know how I knew that. I just knew.

And all week long I had been dreaming of 2:17. I just felt that if everything went perfectly, I had a 2:17 in me.

Off we went. I felt great on the first 100m. I glanced at my watch at 100m and saw "16". "Good!"

At 200m I still felt great, and saw "32". "Yikes! Slow down." Franky was always right on my tail.

The next 200m was rather cruisy. I saw "50" at 300m, and as we hit the bell in 68.14, I felt really good. "I'm gonna run away from Frankybitch!"

My next 200m was strong, and at 600m I still felt good, seeing "1:42". "YES!!! I'm going to run 2:18ish. That's great." But Franky was STILL THERE. Now it wasn't just a race against the clock.

At 700m I was getting tired and stressed, but I still felt strong and controlled. So did Franky, obviously. I sensed that he was making moves to take me down. I looked! Then I just gave it all I had, while keeping good form, and not fading, thankfully.

I crossed the line in 2:17.68, and Frank was about half a second back. IT WAS HARD! I really didn't expect that Frank would run this fast. I thought it was possible, but unlikely.

I'm very pleased with how this was paced: Official timing had the 200s at 33.10, 35.04, 34.68 and 34.86. (Laps of 68.14 and 69.54).

After this, I ran with Diane as she gutted out a 3:16 - 7sec faster than her previous 800m race, and indicating that she is on track for some record breaking later in the season.

We had a blast! Thank you Tanya and Terry for coming to watch, Keith for the timing, Heather and Matthew for the support.

I'm thrilled that after 4 months off over the winter, I can score a 2:17 right now. Plus all the sleeplessness, and the "therapeutic training". (I believe in this training though!)

But mostly, I'm thankful to Frankybitch. He continues to surprise me. And push me!

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My Running Ideal:

One running session per day, structured as follows:

Warmup + 220 Yards to 1 Mile + Cooldown, where 220 Yards to 1 Mile is a single run at medium intensity to race intensity.

Skuj wrote:

Hiya folks. This is copied directly from our forum (which Running Dogg knows so well - I couldn't resist)

Sorry to disappoint you, but I wouldn't say I know it well. I really don't visit there that often. But congrats on your workout.

It's Sunday, so I'm going to be returning to bed soon. The company there is much more tempting than going for a run. Sorry. I'm weak! :-)

If yesterday was Heavy Metal, today was Ambient New Age Whalesong With Bamboo Flutes: My legs are so sore and heavy. My left calf is a concrete block. 30min jog + 4x15sec gentle strides + 62sec pleasant surge + 10min jog. It will take some time to recover._________________My Running Ideal: One running session per day, structured as follows: Warmup + 220 Yards to 1 Mile + Cooldown, where 220 Yards to 1 Mile is a single run at medium intensity to race intensity.

Running Dogg wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but I wouldn't say I know it well. I really don't visit there that often. But congrats on your workout.

LOL! You didn't get to post there that often either, hahahahaha.... But thanks for the congrats, Running Dogg. I'm sure yer a great guy, really.

Running Dogg wrote:

Skuj wrote:

Hiya folks. This is copied directly from our forum (which Running Dogg knows so well - I couldn't resist)

Sorry to disappoint you, but I wouldn't say I know it well. I really don't visit there that often. But congrats on your workout.

It's Sunday, so I'm going to be returning to bed soon. The company there is much more tempting than going for a run. Sorry. I'm weak! :-)

Ssssheesh.

Sunday June 01, I ran 3x 6 miles with 5 min. jog as recovery between 6 mile laps. A 15 min. jog after last one and then a 3 mile hard tempo 15:40

35:06, 34:44, 34:22.

10k on singletrack mountain bike trails.39:30 placed me 5th of the 25 participants. Great weather and good company.

If anyone has a appetite for some humble pie check out the Master's racing and training thread.

way to go driske, solid 80th percentile!

Saturday: hobbled along at kid's athletics, but was amazed by level of control achieved with effective whistle-play-run strategy;

Sunday: beach. It was great therapy to hobble on hot sand.

Managing to be patient about recovery.

easy 35' saturday....legs were a little weary after lots of standing at friday night's meet....took sunday off.....planning to run later today.....weather is good....will report