Patriot Dad wrote:
Gary, the issue is that folks like you are assuming that fraud happened that affected the election and then seeking the evidence that proves that point.
That's not a reasonable way to go about things. You should not start from the assumption that there was fraud, because it is near impossible to prove definitively that there was no fraud. You will always have someone saying "I saw XYZ that was suspicious" that will plant the seed of doubt that makes it impossible to definitively prove that there was no fraud.
It is akin to saying "prove that there is no God". It's impossible. There will always be some small possibility that there is a God. The best we can do is say there is no definitive evidence for God and leave it at that.
I understand what everyone is saying. But do you trust the results of an election where millions of unsecured ballots are sent out?
If so, then tell me how you monitor it and make sure fraud is not happening.
If not, then why are we arguing? We should agree the election was a farce and all look for ways to secure it in the future. No one's doing are they?
I'll go back to my first point in saying that if fraud occurred at the level Trump claims, then it ought to show up in the numbers somewhere. In my first example you showed that the way we broadcast election results is ridiculous (please tell the world, people should know). OK, I'm going to keep looking into the other reports of strange numbers to see if there is convincing evidence of fraud. There are a LOT of strange numbers.
To my mind, if we don't do a Russian collusion style investigation, then I will always believe the election was stolen. There's already enough circumstantial evidence combined with eye witness testimony to draw that conclusion. We are not gathering all the data, and I say that's intentional. One thing I do have proof of though, we do not have equal protection under the law, and that really bothers me. Does it bother you?