Trason finished 2nd at both WS and Leadville, but of course the competition was weaker and she is a legend in ultrarunning.
Trason finished 2nd at both WS and Leadville, but of course the competition was weaker and she is a legend in ultrarunning.
fifa world cup wrote:
This is really the other big main point and has got to enter into anyone's equation on just how much you think a slower guy can out-strategy a faster guy when there's numbers of them around. I'll make an analogy hopefully doesn't make anyone mad, you take for example women. There was what 300 runners? in the western states and there was at least something close to a good mix of genders, opposite of what you don't have in faster men. As distance goes up women do better and better against men in the same way slower men do better against faster men. You think the top 300 people gender mixed in a mile race would produce a top 10 for women? Of course not so I totally understand the reasoning of the gap closing since its very possible with the faster women at 100 miles. Does anybody really believe though the gap will close enough at any distance with major competition where a woman can sniff a win?
Women doing better against men at ultra distances is a myth. The most competitive 100 mile mountain races right now are probably Western States and UTMB in France. The course records for men and women are 14:46 vs 16:47, and 20:34 vs 22:37 respectively at those two races. That's 13.7% slower at WS and 9.9% slower at UTMB. Those variances are pretty much in line with the difference between men's and women's world records at every distance from 100m to the marathon. The gap between the overall 100 mile world records is even wider at 11:28 for men vs 13:47 for women (20% slower for the women).
I don't know exactly the point you were trying to make, but your underlying premise is off.
sparky polastry wrote:
Those variances are pretty much in line with the difference between men's and women's world records at every distance from 100m to the marathon.
I like that! That's another way of saying from 100 meters to 100 miles speed carries over and that has enough statistical points to make a conclusion.
Collin,
Gingerich was never was going to drop out the year he won BW (or any other year he ran it). He might have felt like crap for parts of the race but who doesn't? Dropping out never entered his mind.
Zach is a great example of someone that doesn't not have a lot of pure speed but in his prime he could run with the best. He just knew how to out train and out suffer everyone around him.